omaha spot

[SuuPRlim]

Blockers tho?

Blockers to what lol

Top set, middle set, bottom set?

As its a pretty vacuous spot I'm stacking off ott, I find it quite difficult to hit case cards, therefore so should he.

Am I being a full on Billy with this thought process?

lol no ofc not - yes you're right we do block all the sets, most importantly AAA which is the hand, if we're beat, we will most likely be like - important to remember though that we don't ACTUALLY block any of the sets we just reduce the combionatronic likelihood of our opponent having them, his line is EXTREMELY accurately representing AA, so the fact that we have an ACE in our hand is SLIGHTLY less relevant than you think, because he can very easily have the other 2 aces.

Stacking off OTT purely because we have an ace would be bad - there are loads of reasons why we should stack off on the turn, and we're going to get shown AAA quite a bit, hence why we shouldn't be 3bet/calling this hand pre-flop read-less, speshly in ZOOM (I've never played Zoom fwiw) but I imagine if it's anything like RUSH when it started is pretty nitty.

[Pinchop73]

Guess it all comes down to how often people are 4b bluffing at this level. Obv with zoom I think you encounter different opponents each hand (?), which obv makes the need to 4b light much less.

But if he 4b's light (ie non AAxx/KKxx) MORE than the combinatronical probability of him having the other 2 Aces/Kings (which I think is a pretty good chance (has to be >0.042% right?) I think we obv have to shove.

The fact we have an Ace and King makes the probability of him bluffing higher is I guess what I'm trying to say, so this added to pot odds is my reason for getting it in.

Please if I'm wrong, tell me so! If villains showdown only AAxx 100% of the time here at this level then please flame away!

[SuuPRlim]

The fact we have an Ace and King makes the probability of him bluffing higher is I guess what I'm trying to say, so this added to pot odds is my reason for getting it in.

yes. this is all correct you should have said this instead of

Blockers tho?

you've not said anything that isn't reasonably accurate in the whole thread fwiw

I think as a general rule if facing a 4bet vs someone you know nothing about, assume it's AA** and you won't go far wrong, I myself seldom 4bet someone I have no history or knowledge of without AA in 6max games with 100+bb stacks.