Is my line correct here?

[Radagast]

Playing a 1 rebuy game in local casino, 8k plus 8k in chips.  Villain has commented that I am tightest player he has ever played with, I cant remember him specifically, he remembers me etc.  Talks about going to 400 genting game in Edinburgh etc.  FWIW he seems tighter than me.

In a later hand I 3 bet a different guy with an exact same stack as me with KK, our villain open folds JJ.  original raiser had QQ.

Anyway blinds are 300/600 I have 16k he has 14k. 

I limp in early position with  ,

A couple more limpers

he raises on the button to 1300

1 more caller including me.

Pot is approx 6k

Flop comes 

I bet 2k.

Everyone folds.

He says 'tighest player' stuff again.  I show him my hand.  He says I played the hand wrong and if I check to him I would have doubled up.  Claims to have a 9. 

I first to act v 2 players who have represented decent starting hands.  What if they check behind?  I am giving away free cards?

[EvilPie]

I haven't read the whole thing but I get the general idea.

Basically as long as you're also c betting when you don't like your hand so much there's no problem.

Would you have done exactly the same with AQ thus getting him to fold the best hand?

If you would then I think you're ok.

[Honeybadger]

Villain has commented that I am tightest player he has ever played with ... FWIW he seems tighter than me.

This is super standard. It is always the tightest guy on the table who complains the loudest about other players being rocks.

I limp in early position with 

Nooooo!!! Don't open limp!

[rbc_mike]

Should definitely be raising this pre, make it say 1400, 1500 without antes.  

Are you realistically balanced in this spot when you bet into 2 people having limp-called? I assume you are c/f most missed hands? C/c is viable, c/jam ok too.  Limp-reraise? His raise to 1300 is ridic, like he's ever making it that small with a value hand.  Could make it 4000 and call it off.  Though raise pre is just a much better route.  If he peels button, you c-bet, he shoves, easy game.

Always think about what you are trying to achieve with a bet.  If we are betting TT for value here, I like betting bigger to get stacks in at some point. Like 3400 flop bet if we are going to bet.

[Radagast]

Ok, limping is a big issue I have. 

Thanks for the feedback.  Its appreciated.

[kinboshi]

I haven't read the whole thing but I get the general idea.

Basically as long as you're also c betting when you don't like your hand so much there's no problem.

Would you have done exactly the same with AQ thus getting him to fold the best hand?

If you would then I think you're ok.

This, and also don't show.  You don't need to justify your play to these players, and the fewer premium pairs you show the more you'll have them thinking you're betting with a wider range and then you'll get more customers when you do have a premium pair.

[EvilPie]

Didn't know you'd limped. Just shows I really didn't read the OP.

Only reason to limp early here (and it isn't a good reason) is to hope for a couple more limpers and a raise so that you can get it in pre.

You got exactly that and didn't shove.

What would you have done if there were any over cards on the flop? I assume you 'get away from it'?

Also fwiw your opponent's raise to 1300 over 3 limpers is ridiculous.

[outragous76]

never open limp

never show your hand (unless you have too)

if you take these 2 things away from thsi thread you will be  a better player

[SuuPRlim]

Ok, limping is a big issue I have. 

Do you know WHY it's bad to limp with TT here?

I'm going to guess that you would have raised with KK? But if we're limping TT I guess you would also have limped KQs AJs etc so now when you raise everyone knows you have QQ/KK/AA.

The reason most people have for not wanted to raise a hand like TT is because if it comes QJ5 or AJ6 flop etc you can fold, but this isn't the best way to think about it, don't worry about what cards are going to come out, you have no control over that, just focus on playing each street well. If you open raise TT and get called by A9, that's a great spot for you, as your hand has him badly dominated, sure he might get lucky and make an Ace and it's going to be a little tricky for you, but think about when he flops a 9 on 974? The pots bigger now and he's going to get punished for having a dominated starting hand.

Also - "what if I get re-raised" well this shouldn't be a worry for you, if you get re-raised by someone very tight, it's a pretty easy pass for you, if some young aggro kid withtoomuchmoney decides to 3bet and you think he is going to be bluffing some decent% you can re-re-raise and either get your money in decently or pick up some dead chips. Either way getting re-raised pre-flop isn't something to worry about as you gain more information and as long as you're prepared with some plans for how to respond to X player 3betting you then it doesn't make life any more difficult for you, although a little more variance with being all in ofc.

Need to be fearless in poker. Your chips have to go in the middle at some point, so embrace it, and actively seek those spots where you can get them in great rather than trying to avoid being all in at all costs.

gl

[outragous76]

To expand on Lil D's point it also keeps your range of hands as wide as possible, to your entire opening range (whatever someone thinks that is).

So, by never open limping, you never reveal anything about your hand to start with other than "its worthy of an open". If you have a limping range, and a raising range, you are making yourself very exploitable post flop.

Secondly, I would presume (from years of live play), that some of the limping will involve the following play,

limp marginal hand, get raised, look back to see 9Ts, call the raise, flop A Q 4 no suits, check fold to continuation bet. More succinctly known as limp/call then ck/fold. This play is flat out terrible, and is just buring money. Furthermore, it announces to the table that you are likely to be the "spot" at the table, especially when you keep doing it because you doubled thru early by flopping 2 pair.

DONT LIMP

[millidonk]

My open raise range = any combination of 52 cards.

My open limp range = folded round me in the sb with an aggro bb, limp any pair, Ace or King with the intention of jamming it in their eye.

Having an open limping range that wide is still pretty exploitable, my opening range maybe could be tightened a smidge.