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« on: August 13, 2012, 03:41:12 PM »

Playing Genting Poker Series Stoke. 2nd level of the main event. Don't know much about villain except that he looks early 20's and I haven't seen him do anything silly, I suspect he knows what he's doing at least a bit. I'm early 20's, beats headphones etc, have peeled a few opens in position but haven't really played any hands of note. Can't remember exact sizings but they're pretty close.

50/100, both of us have about starting stack 25k. Villain opens UTG+2 to 250. I 3bet  to 650 from the button (my first 3bet), villain calls without much thought. Flop 854r, he check, I bet 750, he makes it 1650, I call. Turn is an A, he bets 2550, I call. River is T, stacks a bit over 20k, villain bets 5250.

Given the description, how often would you expect villain to fold a set if we shove river? Never? A lot? Often enough?

In the actual hand I never got the chance (and dont think I would've but I was considering it) as the river checked through and I beat K high.
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 03:45:57 PM »

seriously, i'd say close to 0%. Even considering these plays live is a bad sign...
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 03:51:56 PM »

Its re-entry? Serious? I'm love a spew but not here sir.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 03:55:37 PM »

told you you were mental :p in theory he should fold a set, but people dont fold sets.
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 04:07:25 PM »

Cool, I'm 95% sure I wouldn't have done it but I've been wondering how often it might work. Was just wondering cos I didn't think I could call the river when i could lose to some bluffs / merges with Ax and I don't like folding but probably woulda had to. Also, in theory he shouldn't be folding sets given that he becomes stupidly exploitable
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 04:54:43 PM »

3b/fold flop.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2012, 05:13:55 PM »

3b/fold flop.

why?
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 05:19:00 PM »

find out where we are met.

seriously Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2012, 06:17:51 PM »

3b/fold flop.

Don't think I like this. Firstly I think it's a spot where he could 4bet bluff the flop sometimes when he knows how thin he's repping and I could just be exploiting that and he probably realises I can't have a set so am only really repping straights in a spot where I very infrequently have one. Seems like a spot where I would flat my entire range on the flop given that his value range is pretty much just sets and almost my entire range becomes bluff catchers.

I get that we stop him realizing his equity when he folds some random overcards. Is this also a big part of your reasoning? What would do with a less vulnerable hand like AA?
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2012, 06:27:56 PM »

who gives a damn, ur early 20's, beats headphones!

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2012, 06:32:44 PM »

lose the headphones. Not what we need.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2012, 06:41:20 PM »

If you think hes capable of 4b bluffing a flop because he reps a thin range when he c/r's, then no point in dickswinging with him trying to make him fold sets. Its live poker, make a hand and just bet big Smiley

+1 to losing the headphones
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