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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2012, 01:12:29 PM »

Can't see the bb folding often. 

kjs is about 63% vs the anytwo of the BB so when the bb calls we get 1480 out and put 1100 in.

If we get called by anyone else with our hand we are prob about 2-1 vs their range in a larger pot and also now dogs in the 3 way pot.

Obv it depends how often you get called by a bigger stack but doubt that this gets through enough.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2012, 01:19:05 PM »

in which seat would you guys shove this i am thinking HJ+

How did you work that out?  Given that we have almost no FE wouldve thought that we would want high aces and pairs.

what?

oops quoted wrong person - I thought that JKs pushing utg+1 was a bit loose given that the the BB is almost always calling.

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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2012, 01:56:40 PM »

Depends on mood and how the table is playin, if we are playin good ez fold kqs+ aj+ 88+ my range in this spot
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2012, 05:49:15 PM »

I think the shove here is bad, if you're wanting it HU with BB you are risking way too many chips to win this pot UTG with KJ u have way too many ppl to get through
and if big stack is calling off for fun I'd be getting it in with pretty much 22+ A7s+ ATo+ KQ
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2012, 04:20:20 PM »

well if this is a shove or not depends on all the stacks behind and how they are distributed, also we are 7/9 which make a small difference. If we are 9/9 we can ship a little wider (depending on how other stacks are set up)

you have around 10.5bb UTG, going through the blinds hurts your fold equity (assuming you don't get walks). It's certainly a +cEV shove but $ev might be a fold given we are at a FT

My standard would be to fold the bottom of a chip ev range here, KQ I am deffo jamming so this is close
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