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rbc_mike
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« on: October 07, 2012, 08:23:21 PM »

So the game has been very limpy, splashy, standard 1/2 at the Empire.  Couple of drunk fellas, good laugh and relaxed atmosphere.

We have ~450 to start the hand, and the game is 9 handed.

UTG+1 has ~120 and opens to 7 (Villain 1)
Guy on my right calls.
I have  in MP, and call.
Guy on my left (Villain 2) calls. Has been drinking but seems like he has a clue.
Two other calls.

Pot: ~42, 6 handed.

Flop:  Two Diamonds

Villain 1 bets 12.
Next to act folds.
I call (raising may as well put a banner on my forehead saying I've got a 9).
Villain 2 makes it 50.
Folds back round to Villain 1, who shoves for ~100.

Back to me - WWYD? Villain 2 is capable of bluffing and value raising worse .  Anything I do is gonna look pretty strong. If I call and Villain 2 calls, we have ~a pot sized bet on the turn.

In game, I called, and villain 2 called.

Pot: ~350, with Villain 1 all in.

Turn: 
So the board is:  Two Diamonds

We have trips and a flush draw, and a pot sized bet left.
I check, Villain 2 goes all in.

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Thought process was that this is a dry side pot, so can he really be shoving worse often? Perhaps 9T, 98, 97, could have 22, but my main worry was A9, K9.
We have a flush draw which is likely good as it's pretty hard to have a boat on this board atm.
Seems like a trivial call given the previous action and the pot odds, right?

Felt a bit lost at the time, thoughts on all aspects of the hand please! (in before fold pre)
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 08:39:46 PM »

He's definitely never bluffing but i calll. Hands like 79/89/T9 make up his range as well as A9/Q9/22 and with the overlay in the pot from a guy likely to mostly show up with an overpair and the diamond back up i think it'd be a profitable call in the long run.

I think these games play loose enough and focus on absolute value that i don't think we can discount small 9's from being fastplayed in this spot.

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 09:01:56 PM »

He's definitely never bluffing but i calll. Hands like 79/89/T9 make up his range as well as A9/Q9/22 and with the overlay in the pot from a guy likely to mostly show up with an overpair and the diamond back up i think it'd be a profitable call in the long run.

I think these games play loose enough and focus on absolute value that i don't think we can discount small 9's from being fastplayed in this spot.



Pretty much my thought process right there. Live though sometimes people are just sooo polarised you start to think that j9dd is a bluff catcher in this spot!
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