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« on: November 10, 2012, 08:02:22 PM »

Just moved to the table, no hands/reads on villain.
Approx 600 left, 500 paid, avg is 18/19k.

Seat 1: wess282 (55040 in chips)
Seat 2: NICOO5060 (39948 in chips) - villain
Seat 3: Rake Victim (29825 in chips)
Seat 4: Min-raiseFTW (60956 in chips) - hero
Seat 5: PaPi7o92 (11102 in chips)
Seat 6: lambonali (15264 in chips)
Seat 7: alexserge (30172 in chips)
Seat 9: billsbruder (26410 in chips)
ante is 85
wess282: posts small blind 350
NICOO5060: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Min-raiseFTW [ ]
Rake Victim: folds
Min-raiseFTW: raises 700 to 1400
PaPi7o92: folds
lambonali: folds
alexserge: folds
billsbruder: folds
wess282: calls 1050
NICOO5060: calls 700
*** FLOP *** [Two Diamonds ]
wess282: checks
NICOO5060: checks
Min-raiseFTW: bets 1955
wess282: folds
NICOO5060: raises 4345 to 6300
Min-raiseFTW:

Could peel 1 and fold blank turn?
What if we turn more equity?
Is jamming here too much?
3-bet calling the flop here bad?

In my head peeling > 3-bet calling > jamming > folding > calling twice, but wasn't really sure... seems awkward stack-size wise.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 08:21:01 PM »

I would say in a $22 tournament people are generally on the more passive side so when they do raise they likely have a decent hand which makes this a pretty clear call IMO. In a heads up pot you can consider checking back the flop since our K high has some showdown value but 3 way I think this is the best line and to call now. Turn depends on card/their line/sizing.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 09:14:07 PM »

I like a peel, I'd be folding the turn if we don't pick up decent equity though.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 10:10:03 AM »

I know we are readless but the raise otf is pretty chunky.

This leads me to believe that it's not a hand that we are getting the villain off. So jamming is out for me here as we don't fold out enough of his Ax hands. Folding seems too weak so it leaves a call. The trouble with calling is that if you hit your flush, you may struggle to get paid. as the villains big raise otf may be bacause he is worried about the flush. Again you would need reads to decide if villain is that type of player.

It is a very good hand to post and the stacks are what makes this spot tough.

I probably call and evaluate turn, being prepared to give up. You are really well chipped up here so don't need to risk losing this big a pot.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2012, 06:53:54 PM »

In my head peeling > 3-bet calling > jamming > folding > calling twice

Perfect
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 02:59:21 PM »

$22 mtt players are gonna be taking more  passive than aggro/creative lines, we can say he is going to have some kind of hand here (ax+) a decent percent of the time, just call and reeval for me. Stacks are too deep to just shove, 3b/c would have us absolutley crushed when called, we are getting a decent price to call with implied odds.

call all day
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