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« on: January 18, 2013, 08:35:10 PM »

Evening all. This is a hand from last weekend on the 50p/£1 cash tables at DTD that I'd appreciate some opinions on:

I've been running good and and up to around £200. SB is a regular DTD player and just sat down a few hands ago with about £100. UTG has been steadily losing and is down to around £50ish.

I'm on the button with 

A few players limp in (as is usual) and I make it £7 to go. SB and UTG call and the others fold. So its 3 players to the flop with about £25 in the pot.

Flop is  two spades

They both check to me so I make a c-bet of £14.

SB quickly calls. UTG things for ages whilst fiddling about with his chips over and over. He seems to have a genuine decision and I'd be very surprised if he has more than a medium to weak hand - probably a queen with a medium kicker - QJ or Q10 as a guess.

Eventually UTG announces all in for about £44.

So its £30 for me to call. I'm pretty sure I'm ahead of UTG, so folding seems out of the question, but the problem is the SB. If I shove all in to isolate on UTG then SB will fold all the hands I'm beating (like Qx) and call with a set of twos or threes. The other hand SB could have is something like  or  for a straight and flush draw. He might call with these hands and he might fold.

To be honest here I didn't like shoving and I didn't like folding so I decided on the middle way and called hoping that SB would fold. Anyways SB quickly calls again as well.

So now there is about £15O in the pot with 1 all in and SB only has about £55 left.

The turn is the    giving me top 2 pair

SB checks. I probably should have checked behind here but I was thinking if SB is on a straight/flush draw then I need to get the money in now because if he misses on the river he wont call another bet. Plus I dont want his draw to get there - if he's on one. Plus whatever comes on the river if the SB shoves I'll be getting around 4-1 pot odds so I'll have to call. So I put the SB all in and he quickly calls showing a set of threes

The river is another king (bink!) making me a higher full house and winning the pot. UTG confirms he had a pair of queens on the flop - as I suspected.

This proves the old poker cliche, its better to be lucky than good. Smiley

So, obviously I got lucky on the river but how about my play on the flop and turn?

 
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 12:23:01 AM »

The turn shove is definitely correct.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2013, 10:48:37 AM »

Shove flop imo
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2013, 11:12:38 AM »

£10-£12 pre, they wont fold.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 09:01:59 PM »

Shove flop, your hand is too strong with this much in the pot, and your probably not going to get more value later off other Qx anyway. Him folding his draws is great for you if you shove also, obviously his really strong ones arn't going anywhere, but they probably wont put more money in later unless they hit, so your kinda freerolling him.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 10:16:13 AM »

yh defo bigger pre-flop they'll be limping a range that KQ can dominate a lot off and not many hands that crushes you (they'll v v rarely have AK AQ KK or QQ) also if you make it £12-14 you might EVEN get a fold from one of them and make the pot a bit more manageable post flop but that prolly isnt going to happen lol.

I'd also bet bigger oon the flop, like £20, people are so stubborn and its so likely you have the best hand.

The turn, yh you must shove, I think him having 22 or 33 is defo a legit concern, but I think you're sort of semi-commited to stack off after the flop action, then when you hit your second pair you're totally obligated to be all-in so i'd not worry about doubling him up with 22 or 33 as you're gonna do that anyways and just try and punish the hands you do beat in his range Qx and flush/striaght draws, if he has a s/d with his flush draw, the nut flush draw or has picked up a King with his flush draw as well he's never folding so just get him all in, if he decides to fold then there's nothing wrong with that either.

I think if you'd have sized your first two bets ever so slightly bigger in this hand you'd have played it pretty much spot on and obviously a lovely result for you on the river thumbs up
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