PLO tourney spot

[Karabiner]

Playing the $2k gte PLO tourney on FTP last night and after some serious grinding I reach this position:

Six players left and blinds are 800/1600.

The big chip-leader(100K+) raises to 4k

I find KKQTs and pot it to 14k leaving myself 10k behind.

A solid reg who has me covered shoves behind me and the others all pass including two shortstacks who have 8k and 9k.

Can we or more importantly should we fold here?

[mulhuzz]

only question is whether we high five the dealer and order a jaegerbomb before calling.

since it's quite hard to high five an online dealer, I guess we should just call.

edit: basically, the first open to 4k doesn't count, so you're really just bringing it in for pot at 800/1600/4000 since big CL should be opening a lot of hands, etc. With that in mind, reg can easily be potting it with much worse than we have, and we have a pertty premium hand, if he has AAxx with our suit it's just a cooler and we can still make a set or a straight! We have hands like KQJTs absolutely crushed and he may be 3b jamming this in.

Basically I think if you're planning on folding, you shouldn't have opened. Obviously this hand is a snap three-bet and so has to be a snap-call imo.

[SuuPRlim]

defo go all in.

Although people always have aces, never any other hand ever which is a bit annoying.

You're calling 10k into 55.3k so you need under 20% to make this a snap and theres almost no chance you dont have 30%+ and easy to have as much as 40% vs really bowl aces, we basically need to be shown AAKQ/AAKT with a dominated suit before we can fold.

[mulhuzz]

Dave, you don't think he can be wider than AAxx because (as I've assumed) the big CL is opening wide into the short stacked blinds and I know that he knows the he knows that I know, etc etc?

[Karabiner]

Dave, you don't think he can be wider than AAxx because (as I've assumed) the big CL is opening wide into the short stacked blinds and I know that he knows the he knows that I know, etc etc?

He was deffo opening ~80% of pots so you have a point.

[Karabiner]

I shipped it in almost instantly although I was 99% sure the guy had AA.

If it hadn't been for those two shortstacks who must have been drooling at the prospect of laddering I wouldn't have even had a moment's hesitation.

When I related this hand to a friend who plays these same tourneys he said that he could have found the fold button in that spot which is why I decided to post it here.

[SuuPRlim]

Dave, you don't think he can be wider than AAxx because (as I've assumed) the big CL is opening wide into the short stacked blinds and I know that he knows the he knows that I know, etc etc?

Possible if he's good but most players in PLO tourneys in this spot are 100% AA. I'd be Iso'ing any decent QQ, magnum JJ, all AK** ds AK[Q-T]* singe suited and ofc the KQJT and magnum broadway hands.

So wouldn't be surprised if it was wider, but also wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt.

Folding would be straight up awful I'm afraid

[mulhuzz]

Dave, you don't think he can be wider than AAxx because (as I've assumed) the big CL is opening wide into the short stacked blinds and I know that he knows the he knows that I know, etc etc?

Possible if he's good but most players in PLO tourneys in this spot are 100% AA. I'd be Iso'ing any decent QQ, magnum JJ, all AK** ds AK[Q-T]* singe suited and ofc the KQJT and magnum broadway hands.

So wouldn't be surprised if it was wider, but also wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt.

Folding would be straight up awful I'm afraid

fair enough -- are there any hands you're overcalling as villain?