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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 04:44:34 PM »

Played nicely up to the river.

Firstly never ever shoving the river.  The conflict arises from the fact a tiny turn bet into an overbet on the river is so nutted in general it's scary.  On the other side of the coin Pleno is completely correct that in the low Scoops people do things which defy any sense of logic so staring at a betting pattern really doesn't matter.

I think it is a fold, the only thing that really makes sense from how he has bet it is T9 hearts (maybe J9hh or Tx9h although I think the later especially would be less likely).  But I've seen them turn up with all sorts in these spots so in game I'd end up flicking it in but it's just the nuts too much of the time to be technically correct imo.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2013, 08:34:30 AM »

Appreciate this goes against the thread title but...reasoning for calling the turn?

AA don't seem ahead a lot of the time anymore. This is why I would reraise the flop, but I like to make the game as simple as possible. Plenty of excuses for draws to shove if people are as bad as Pleno says.

Calling 500 for a heart seems to my mug eyes like a bad idea because you've still got to get paid if it comes, when there's a fair chance you have  X.

As played, I think I'd like to fold. I also think I end up calling for fear of posting the hand on blonde and getting chastised.
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2013, 11:40:32 AM »

Appreciate this goes against the thread title but...reasoning for calling the turn?

AA don't seem ahead a lot of the time anymore. This is why I would reraise the flop, but I like to make the game as simple as possible. Plenty of excuses for draws to shove if people are as bad as Pleno says.

Calling 500 for a heart seems to my mug eyes like a bad idea because you've still got to get paid if it comes, when there's a fair chance you have  X.

As played, I think I'd like to fold. I also think I end up calling for fear of posting the hand on blonde and getting chastised.

we're getting 4/1 so surely if we're dead to a heart we're still getting the right odds? Im happy to take feedback on the hand in other spots tho as i said in OP. I mean if we're getting slightly +EV odds, even though its slight we dont need implied do we?

Or is this a reverse implied spot.

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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2013, 02:00:28 PM »

Appreciate this goes against the thread title but...reasoning for calling the turn?

AA don't seem ahead a lot of the time anymore. This is why I would reraise the flop, but I like to make the game as simple as possible. Plenty of excuses for draws to shove if people are as bad as Pleno says.

Calling 500 for a heart seems to my mug eyes like a bad idea because you've still got to get paid if it comes, when there's a fair chance you have  X.

As played, I think I'd like to fold. I also think I end up calling for fear of posting the hand on blonde and getting chastised.

we're getting 4/1 so surely if we're dead to a heart we're still getting the right odds? Im happy to take feedback on the hand in other spots tho as i said in OP. I mean if we're getting slightly +EV odds, even though its slight we dont need implied do we?

Or is this a reverse implied spot.



No you're correct. Though funnily enough it turned out to be a reverse implied spot because you hit your hand and still lost Cheesy

But no, it's fine to call turn, like you said you're getting 4/1 (taking your word for it, havent checked myself!) so you have a roughly breakeven pot odds call, and you will get paid on the river a non0 amount if you get there for sure, even if its only a tiny bet, so its fine to call.
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