complex hand pretty deep

[Honeybadger]

If you are in a hand it auto,stoically tracks it.

Plinop has the best typos.

[pleno1]

whats your thoguhts about both ranges stu? how wid eshould we be b-callign? should he have a c r range? if so what should it consist of?

[Oxford_HRV]

i think his range looks like 8dX/AdX

[The Squid]

This deep shouldnt we four bet for value.

[pleno1]

This deep shouldnt we four bet for value.

I'd really not want to 4bet fold aq or ak suited, I think aq off suit is a decent hand to 4b fold here though and would be 4betting pretty thin for value. Perhaps just having a calling range could be interesting too, ifmhes3betting 86s then he's either 5betting us and making us fold aqs (I'm not that hood Sam) or he's folding which would be a huge shame giving the potential reverse implied odds he has vs us.

It's also,important to have these strong hands in our calling range too otherwise he just goes bananas when we initially peel and suited aces are nice hands to have in our range here.

[PathFinder]

Really love that logic! You could even argue just not having a 3/4 betting range when 300bb+ deep

[SuuPRlim]

Its actually pretty unlikely you have a flush here but IDK what he's expecting to get called by aside from K/Q  Qx or perhaps Qx you didn't 4bet IDK.

[pleno1]

Its actually pretty unlikely you have a flush here but IDK what he's expecting to get called by aside from K/Q  Qx or perhaps Qx you didn't 4bet IDK.

Well my raising range on the flop is nfds, qxdd with a straight draw or a set or possible adqx. I'd absolutely check a set ott so my only hand that isn't a bluff now is qxad

[The Squid]

Obv meant 4 bet and peel 5 bet.