QQ in that same bloody 20e sat

[rfgqqabc]

PokerStars Hand #112283492279: Tournament #865444176, 2000FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2014/02/23 18:26:41 CET [2014/02/23 12:26:41 ET]
Table '865444176 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: AAmikkoAA.fr (1520 in chips)
Seat 2: Mr.Kittinger (2936 in chips)
Seat 3: JERREM30 (3363 in chips)
Seat 4: laspierre41 (3145 in chips)
Seat 5: kenshiro7777 (2871 in chips)
Seat 6: limp4value (2126 in chips)
Seat 7: 1extassyman1 (4590 in chips)
Seat 8: meulder580 (3505 in chips)
Seat 9: Yoplax78 (2674 in chips)
limp4value: posts small blind 25
1extassyman1: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mr.Kittinger [ ]
meulder580: folds
Yoplax78: folds
AAmikkoAA.fr: folds
Mr.Kittinger: raises 50 to 100
JERREM30: folds
laspierre41: raises 50 to 150
kenshiro7777: raises 300 to 450
limp4value: folds
1extassyman1: folds
Mr.Kittinger: calls 350
laspierre41: raises 2695 to 3145 and is all-in
kenshiro7777: calls 2421 and is all-in

[pleno1]

bigger pre initially.... its a 20e .fr satalite and you have qq..

as played just get it in and tis a cooler if youre beat, they too fkn spazzy

[rfgqqabc]

bigger pre initially.... its a 20e .fr satalite and you have qq..

as played just get it in and tis a cooler if youre beat, they too fkn spazzy

Felt sure I'd clicked to 3x, didnt even realise until you posted. I'm always beat though here surely. If cold4ber jammed I'd call, but min3b, 4b, i call then guy jams. How can i be good? Esp with our edge (despite being unable to 3x pre apparently) and payout structure?

[pleno1]

i mean i dont play satalites, but i just looked

PokerStars Hand #112283492279: Tournament #865444176, 2000FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) -

im just basically never folding queens or ak in any spot ever in this kind of tournament and just putting it down to a cooler and not wasting any time analysing it if im beat. that may be a bad way of thinking about it and/or poor logic, but just the way i see it personally.

maybe it will lead to further discussion and it could be interesting

[rfgqqabc]

i mean i dont play satalites, but i just looked

PokerStars Hand #112283492279: Tournament #865444176, 2000FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) -

im just basically never folding queens or ak in any spot ever in this kind of tournament and just putting it down to a cooler and not wasting any time analysing it if im beat. that may be a bad way of thinking about it and/or poor logic, but just the way i see it personally.

maybe it will lead to further discussion and it could be interesting

Oh, its the exact same as the 20e one, just one has more seats I think. I play a decent amount of these sats on sunday and would like thoughts. People dont seem quite as punty in these from my limited experience. It just doesn't feel like a cooler.

[gs08bjohnson]

Think you can fold to the cold 4 and be reasonably happy, there are times you are folding the best hand but you are largely beat. It's probably very close equity wise and I think your edge will probably be bigger finding other spots, AK I'm always folding here to do anything else seems awful. Lets not forget this is a satellite.

Once you peel the cold 4 I don't think you can fold, even though their ranges just got stronger. You just have too much of your stack in the pot with too good a hand.