Dealmaking etc should be discussed with backers/investors beforehand imo. Just like playing hands, it should be the guy who is in the tournament that is discussing deals. When I buy in someone for a tournament I don't just buy in their ability as a player. I buy into their trustworthyness, their judgement etc which includes their decision making in any deal discussion.
I just think it's unfair that a deal can be effectively made between 2 parties and someone else on the rail can profit from it when it's potentially at the expense of one of the parties who is still playing.
Who's giving Middy or Jack stick? Certainly not me.
Im doing the same as them, whatever is in my best interests,same as everyone else.
^^ also this.
Which is partly why I raise the point. I would have done exactly the same as Jack or Middy given the situation but I think this is way better for me the pro, than an amateur.
For example, I make the final of a big tournament and I'm heads up vs a non-pro, a school teacher, let's call him 'Amatay'.
There is 1mil for 1st and 600k for 2nd. Yes I might be the better, more experienced player but playing heads up with not deep stacks for 400k isn't something I particularly want to do. Me and Amatay discuss a deal where we're happy to take 800k each. Now suddenly some pro friend of mine with a huge bankroll, let's call him 'cambridgealex'sdad' turns up and says, I'll lock in your 820 and you just play.
Now the school teacher, who is a recreational player doesn't get his deal and naturally noone wants to offer him any kind of insurance is forced to play a heads up match where he'll effectively win or lose a few hundred K. To me that just doesn't seem fair. Pro now has his deal locked, feels much more comfortable and is probably able to play a little better because of it whilst mr rec doesn't have a deal and has to play on in a match where he's not really playing for the same amount his opponent is.
I realise there are a few holes in my argument, and that these conversations etc can't really be stopped when players are on breaks etc. The same way you can't prevent players from being ghosted online but there are ways to try and stop it and at least not allow third parties to immediately interfere in deal proceedings.
My mind is just still far from made on this one and I want to be convinced further one way or the other.