Nlo8 progressive super KO

[Doobs]

Doesn't a225 do better multiway because we don't chop the low as often and can get half of the pot 3 ways more often than when we have a552?

I am used to Hypers so am pretty good on all in equity.  I'd fold A225 a lot more than A255 in Hypers.  I can't see me folding the latter much at all, but definitely folding the former early on.  I'd be pretty surprised if I got more than one caller here if I shoved pre, and a lot if the time it is just getting through.

Playing the streets is different, and you may have a point.  If I was sat here with A225 and had an early position raiser and a caller, wouldn't I be assuming one had A2 anyway?  And if we are less likely to be facing A2, we are more likely to be facing AAxy.  Dunno,  would probably still hate A225 in this spot.  

[tikay]

If you are playing this hand there is a chance you get quartered anyway.  You aren't ever folding the nut low and no one else is.

Shoving pre means you get a lot of those A2s to fold.  You have a pair, a suited ace, an extra wheel card and a deuce.  Ticks all the boxes in a hyper.

Not saying I would get it in, but with 1k+ in the middle and 6 back, it doesn't look like it can be bad to me.  As it is you get OR to fold and AK2 likely calls and gets there.   Don't think that makes it bad though. 

Would prefer A255 to A225, am on phone so can't test it, but puts you ahead of stuff like A23K, A23q and a24k that are possible calling hands for your opponents.

I have a little "rough & ready" hand value chart which I refer to from time to time to review my ranges.

A255 is some way ahead of A225, & gives us far more ways of getting at least something back.

As it happens, the guy who won the hand had, in my view, by far the best combo hand, A-2-paint-paint is what we should be really looking to gii with imo.

It turns out I can use pro poker tools on my phone.  A255 beats a2**, where as A22* is 47/53 as I expected. 

A255 also is 37% vs A2** and A2**.  If you add in AA** to their ranges then you drop to 33%.  But I am starting to rule out AA** if we have two people in already and we are in EP. 

A255 also beats A2 paint paint.  I think this is a plo8/nlo8 difference though.  I'd be happy playing the paint paint hand through the streets but a2 pair pair plays reasonably well if you just smash it in pre. 

Quite possibly, yes, I'm not familiar with NLO8 or NLO8 ranges.

If I were in a big MTT, late stages, & found A-2-paint-paint (especially if one is a King) I'll happily get it in. A-2-5-5 I'd be far less confident. More scoop chances I fancy, though I don't have any maths evidence to back that up. 

[Ironside]

i doubt we get too many folds from a2 pre anyway in a $15

Not that it makes much of a difference but this is a $27.50,

Doors this isnt a hyper in fact it was quite a pleasant structure , I didn't have to shove light on my way through it

[Ironside]

another thing to consider is bounties are only paid to the Hi part i would of assumed that it was split to the lo share too