Britain at the Bookies

[Chompy]

Was that 'Angry Greg Raymer' we caught a glimpse of a few times at Romford?

Lol..deffo he'm yah

Yeah defo him!

At Southend when he was a reg he was known as Handbag Dave

Seemed to play every night for a while at Luton and then disappeared.

Likes a handbag as much as Claypole does Angry GR.

[atdc21]

Arboy, I dont see why the bookies cant use all the info they have on you to their advantage, no more than you use info you have, that they dont for your advantage. Also find it amusing that you think people who green up ( in play/ or b4 race/event on bf) should pay a charge, when in effect you, as an' Arber' are doing exactly that. Not having a go at you b4 i get a trolling assault, just balancing your more than ample views 

[arbboy]

Arboy, I dont see why the bookies cant use all the info they have on you to their advantage, no more than you use info you have, that they dont for your advantage. Also find it amusing that you think people who green up ( in play/ or b4 race/event on bf) should pay a charge, when in effect you, as an' Arber' are doing exactly that. Not having a go at you b4 i get a trolling assault, just balancing your more than ample views 

I am not doing exactly the same at all in that situation.  As an arber or position taker on betfair, rather than a green up merchant on bf, i will pay substantially more commission to betfair than the green up merchants will to make the same profits and win the same amount of money longer term from betfair if i am a winning customer.  Therefore i provide betfair with a much bigger income stream for them than a green up merchant would.  Hence why the green up bots get hit with the PC charge and position takers don't to make up for the relatively large amount of money they suck out of the betfair eco system without giving much back to betfair to run their business and keep the churn going moving forward.

[atdc21]

Arby, as an aside, did you ever use flutter.com b4 betfair bought them out? Amazing how far and so quickly things have changed, when you put a bet or lay up it used to appear with your name on it, and they would send you an e-mail after every process .....had some amazing prices on there, people would often put up bets/lays the wrong way around 

[arbboy]

Arby, as an aside, did you ever use flutter.com b4 betfair bought them out? Amazing how far and so quickly things have changed, when you put a bet or lay up it used to appear with your name on it, and they would send you an e-mail after every process .....had some amazing prices on there, people would often put up bets/lays the wrong way around 

Never used flutter in the really early days.  I think if you wanted to lay 6 horses in a race to lose £1k each you needed £6k in total in your account to do it as their software was so poor they didn't net off the liabilities.  Seems crazy looking back.  No wonder the business failed.

[The Camel]

Arby, as an aside, did you ever use flutter.com b4 betfair bought them out? Amazing how far and so quickly things have changed, when you put a bet or lay up it used to appear with your name on it, and they would send you an e-mail after every process .....had some amazing prices on there, people would often put up bets/lays the wrong way around 

Never used flutter in the really early days.  I think if you wanted to lay 6 horses in a race to lose £1k each you needed £6k in total in your account to do it as their software was so poor they didn't net off the liabilities.  Seems crazy looking back.  No wonder the business failed.

Flutter was fantastic.

There was a big far eastern punter who was really hot called somchoi something. And his username was "somchoi".

At Blue Square in the early days he was the biggest winner. Then we discovered we could see what he wanted to back on flutter and move the book so we got with him.

[JohnCharver]

"not here to make a profit out of peoples misery" sorry pet but thats exactly what you do.

That's not their actual business model, though. It's just an inevitable factor.

It's like saying McDonald's is making a profit out of people's laziness.

I thought it was a good programme, personally. We've seen the fun you can have when you exercise control and how bad it gets when you don't.  Either way, Simon Clare looks happy.

Whether its your model are not, if its what you achieve its exactly the same. Shops are only viable because of FOBTs which are a blight on the most vulnerable (to addiction). Its obvious the results of these fobts and who plays them to anyone who walks into a bookies. The three guys playing on the machine enjoying it was total manipulation. Ive been in a bookies at least 100 times a year, every year since old enough and the majority of people are represented by the guy doing his money (and reacting violently to the machine).

Mcdonalds comparison is pointless, you wouldnt end up suicidal or ruining your life because you had too many big macs.

I dont dislike the programme, just think shop managers are coming out as snakes and should be recognised as such.

[tikay]

Arboy, I dont see why the bookies cant use all the info they have on you to their advantage, no more than you use info you have, that they dont for your advantage. Also find it amusing that you think people who green up ( in play/ or b4 race/event on bf) should pay a charge, when in effect you, as an' Arber' are doing exactly that. Not having a go at you b4 i get a trolling assault, just balancing your more than ample views 

Beautifully put, proper diplomatic, that.

[nirvana]

to jupe the handicapper

ahem

[TheDazzler]

to jupe the handicapper

ahem

I know!
I even had to check if 'd' was beside 'j' on the keyboard for a misclick.
But no. These kids today Nirvana, education is wasted on them. Innit.

[vegaslover]

Arby, as an aside, did you ever use flutter.com b4 betfair bought them out? Amazing how far and so quickly things have changed, when you put a bet or lay up it used to appear with your name on it, and they would send you an e-mail after every process .....had some amazing prices on there, people would often put up bets/lays the wrong way around 

Never used flutter in the really early days.  I think if you wanted to lay 6 horses in a race to lose £1k each you needed £6k in total in your account to do it as their software was so poor they didn't net off the liabilities.  Seems crazy looking back.  No wonder the business failed.

I started off on flutter, when they gave me a tenner to bet with. Quickly learned it was far more profitable offering the bets then taking 'em. For a while you could offer some crazy lays as the punters didn't have a clue and had this free money to waste..lol