Uniformity of Rules

[Yogi-Bear]

Sounds Grand.

And very do-able.

Now is as good a time as any.

Lets go 4 it guys and gals.

You have lots of cardrooms to support it, lots of players to support it.


Yogi

[londonpokergirl]

Ready whenever you are

[tikay]

Well we are all saying lets do it, but we need to go a little further before we get to that stage.

First, we gotta be clearer about the job description.

But before that, a group of players needs to be formed, loosely speaking, what Ralph describes as a players organisation. (THAT can be any number of players - dozens, or hundeds, the more the better If it is successful, of course, thousands may join eventually. But if ALL players benefit from the action of a few, well the majority won't feel the need to join. But then they won't have a voice, so providing the PO & their empowered LO has made SOME progress with the other parties, the rest of the players will become isolated from the decision making process. THEN they will join the PO, so that they have a voice). Ideally, the PO needs to reflect reality - so the vast majority of members will be "regular folks", but it would be necessary, important, & beneficial, to get some "names" on board too. Too many from EITHER end of the spectrum will kill it, because it will leave one end without representation. Imagine, for example, if it were all "names" - they'd tackle, for example, TV rights - but what use is that to the guy who only plays 10 & 20 comps at his local? And vice-versa. Next, the PO vote in their chosen Liasion Officer. So, he/she is NOT the decision maker, they are the message carrier.

The PO, of course, will come from players all over the UK. And they'd have to appoint a committee (oh how I hate that word), who in turn would give the mandate to the LO.

Then the LO meets the interested parties - Casino Groups, GC (if they'll agree to a meet), Major Sponsors, etc.
He takes a mandate with him, if he/she gets agreement to any of the items, job done, if not, it's back to the PO.

Money. Attending these meets costs time and money. It's not practical to seek funding from any of the interested parties, for obvious reasons, so that means it's down to the players, unless a benefactor can be found.

WARNINGS.

The task is thankless. Plenty of stones will be thrown at the LO - from ALL parties, including non-aligned players. Anyone who thinks agreement could be reached quickly is living in cloud cuckoo land - the task is PERMANENT, it will NEVER END. Progress will be painfully slow - best to move forward taking bite size problems one at a time, trying to solve everything in one go will be a no-no.

There you go - something to chew on. Chuck it around, tear it about, and if the bare bones of a players organisation comes out of it, well, you can take it from there, & contrive a way for players to "sign-up". This would be a cross-bench exercise, so posts would have to be made on all the major poker fora, to ensure representation from across the board.

But - and this is the tricky bit - DON'T run away with the horses, wait until some open debate has taken place, & some concensus has been formed. Remember the farce of the blonde crypto tourney & all those polls, & folks rushing round organising things before a decision was made? So give it a bit of time. It's waited - in poker terms - a lifetime - so a few days & weeks ruminating on the way forward wil do no harm at all.

[Karabiner]

Well I have no idea about how to set up a Players Organisation.

But I would definitely be willing to subscribe to one if somebody were to organise some basic acceptable guidelines.

There are enough of us that a small fee of 5 or so would give us some working capital.

[tikay]

Well that's good to hear Ralph, but we are a very long way from that stage yet. But the mere fact that folks might not mind spending a quid or two - & that's all it would take - would be heartening, and a good start.

[ifm]

The thing (for me) is, and you mentioned it, what if the gaming board ain't interested?
From what i see they are the true gods here, they say jump the casinos jump, if they say f*** off what can you do?
At least as a workforce you can withdraw labour but poker?
Ian

[tikay]

Softly softly Ian. They are publicly funded from Central Giovernment, so they could not possibly refuse to have some sort of dialogue with interested parties.

[Karabiner]

They can hardly turn down an offer of liaison imo.

[tikay]

Correct. They don't have to agree, or concur, but they HAVE to listen.

A dripping tap soon fills a bath. It COULD be achieved. Eventually.

[snoopy1239]

Correct. They don't have to agree, or concur, but they HAVE to listen.

A dripping tap soon fills a bath. It COULD be achieved. Eventually.

surely a dripping tap would take ages to fill a bath. 

[RED-DOG]

A dripping butty fills me quite quickly, but Im hungry again in half an hour