Tanks Article!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hairydude]

yo read ur article tank-good read!!!

I disagree tho that Stu Ungar wasnt one of the greats- he was such a talented guy that just happened to also be a degenerate Gambler- He won three world series main events after all.

He just loved action so much thats why he became broke- the money didnt matter to him at all- thats pretty bad news and the traits of a degenerate but it doesnt distinguish between a good poker player or not-after all he never lost all his millions at the poker table- it was other places such as at the track, casinos and through hangers on and also through drugs!!!

If you've not already read it I would advise getting the biography on him- the man behind the shades-its an excellent read!!!

[RED-DOG]

yo read ur article tank-good read!!!

I disagree tho that Stu Ungar wasnt one of the greats- he was such a talented guy that just happened to also be a degenerate Gambler- He won three world series main events after all.

He just loved action so much thats why he became broke- the money didnt matter to him at all- thats pretty bad news and the traits of a degenerate but it doesnt distinguish between a good poker player or not-after all he never lost all his millions at the poker table- it was other places such as at the track, casinos and through hangers on and also through drugs!!!

If you've not already read it I would advise getting the biography on him- the man behind the shades-its an excellent read!!!

 

[Nem]

Stu Ungar is definitely one of the best players ever, an all time great!

I would have loved to see him own Ivey hu.

[Sark79]

I have read the book. It is good.

What makes him so good compared to a player around today. I know he only died 9 years ago, but he missed the internet phase that poker has taken now.  Doesn't someone like Ivey have a better chance of being a more complete player because of the global appeal of poker. Back in 97 it wasn't as big and as a result Unger wouldn't have faced as many different players as Ivey does.

[Nem]

Ungar still played against all the White Chip players. Brunson, Reese, Harman etc...

[Sark79]

Yea I guess you are right

[ifm]

I actually found the "article" slightly offensive, i happen to believe we are judged by our equals and our peers, or by history.
Stu Ungar was one of the greatest players to have ever lived, far more qualified people than the people who frequent this particular forum have said so.

[Sark79]

Where is the article?

[Hairydude]

Man that would be some Heads up game-Phil Ivey Vs Stu Ungar, I generally dont think u can compare players from past to present tho-similar to football where we try and say oh such and such would still be a great footballer in todays game, or you get old timers saying ah it was much better in my day!

For example in football its no doubt the players are a lot more proffesional and train more and drink less and also are a lot fitter-we have more facilities and technolgy at our disposal to achieve all of this, its the same with poker we have so many tools like hand calculators, online forums with hand analysis  and a lot more literature etc at our disposal

In the book there is a props bet(he done loads of these kinda things) where he counts back 2 fully shuffled decks of cards, card for card- I mean I dont think even my memories that impressive

[snoopy1239]

I actually found the "article" slightly offensive, i happen to believe we are judged by our equals and our peers, or by history.
Stu Ungar was one of the greatest players to have ever lived, far more qualified people than the people who frequent this particular forum have said so.

offensive?

[ifm]

I actually found the "article" slightly offensive, i happen to believe we are judged by our equals and our peers, or by history.
Stu Ungar was one of the greatest players to have ever lived, far more qualified people than the people who frequent this particular forum have said so.

offensive?

I was being diplomatic snippy

[Ironside]

I actually found the "article" slightly offensive, i happen to believe we are judged by our equals and our peers, or by history.
Stu Ungar was one of the greatest players to have ever lived, far more qualified people than the people who frequent this particular forum have said so.

offensive?

I was being diplomatic snippy

ian i will PM you tomorrow, i'll give you tips on diplomacy if you give me some on spelling mind you i am a lexi...... (bugger i cant spell it but you know what i mean)

[ifm]

ian i will PM you tomorrow, i'll give you tips on diplomacy if you give me some on spelling mind you i am a lexi...... (bugger i cant spell it but you know what i mean)

Now THAT would be ironic

[Wardonkey]

I think that the point Tank was trying to make was that money/bankroll management are essential skills for the successful poker player.

If Stu Unger had possessed these skills he would probably be killing the 'The Big Game' today. He did not and was therefore not as successful as he might have been. How much weight you give to these skills is subjective, hence the discussion.

Making a distiction between the worlds most successful poker players and the worlds best poker players, removing entrirely the money management side would give you two very different lists.

[snoopy1239]

I think that the point Tank was trying to make was that money/bankroll management are essential skills for the successful poker player.

If Stu Unger had possessed these skills he would probably be killing the 'The Big Game' today. He did not and was therefore not as successful as he might have been. How much weight you give to these skills is subjective, hence the discussion.

Making a distiction between the worlds most successful poker players and the worlds best poker players, removing entrirely the money management side would give you two very different lists.