bad start to the day

[Rooky9]

I'm sure it also depends where they are as to what is reasonable force. If they are upstairs it is more acceptable to give them a good kicking.... Personally I'd give them the kicking downstairs with my 9 iron and them drag them upstairs to push them back down!

Not sure what I would do at the moment, living in a flat!

[boldie]

you can always just claim they "fell" out the window