mansion ott security

[mex]

actually i used a debit card, which is a not a credit card, you can pay onto those more than they deposit.

[TightPaulFolds]

I use a debit card also, pay on to it more than I deposited (otherwise what's the point?)
So that's my main gripe: I take from my card and pay back to the card, that's all I ever do: where's the scope for this being fraudulent? If I cloned someone's card, why would I pay my hard-gambled cash back to them? Durrr. If the card was fake, why would I want to keep paying back to a fake card? As long as someone repeatedly took from a card and put back to it, why ever run an ID check on them? Why not, you ask? Because such a process requires me to take the risk of sending off all this personal info.

[kinboshi]

A poker room won't put back onto a credit card more than was deposited using it.

I might have misread this, but all the poker rooms I've cashed out from have done so to my credit card - and I have had a lot more put onto it than I deposited.

[AndrewT]

A poker room won't put back onto a credit card more than was deposited using it.

I might have misread this, but all the poker rooms I've cashed out from have done so to my credit card - and I have had a lot more put onto it than I deposited.

Without any further security checks - they just let you withdraw more back onto the card that you deposited?

As mex says, debit cards are different. In the past I've never had to send in any documentation, though that has changed this week with Mansion - they won't let me withdraw without sending in a copy of the card. Mansion are noticably stricter than other rooms (otherwise this thread wouldn't be here).

[TightPaulFolds]

A poker room won't put back onto a credit card more than was deposited using it.

I might have misread this, but all the poker rooms I've cashed out from have done so to my credit card - and I have had a lot more put onto it than I deposited.

Without any further security checks - they just let you withdraw more back onto the card that you deposited?

As mex says, debit cards are different. In the past I've never had to send in any documentation, though that has changed this week with Mansion - they won't let me withdraw without sending in a copy of the card. Mansion are noticably stricter than other rooms (otherwise this thread wouldn't be here).

It's quite rare to have it without checks, I have to admit. I've only been on 2 sites ever that allowed me to do this no bother, and one of them has decided to start doing the check, maybe in retrospect. Most of the others won't allow the credit back to card, checks or nay.
I do it mostly for convenience and cost. Neteller have just fried me for 2% of my balance for 'currency handling'. I don't remember them sitting at the table and sweating it out through calls and raises...

[kinboshi]

A poker room won't put back onto a credit card more than was deposited using it.

I might have misread this, but all the poker rooms I've cashed out from have done so to my credit card - and I have had a lot more put onto it than I deposited.

Without any further security checks - they just let you withdraw more back onto the card that you deposited?

As mex says, debit cards are different. In the past I've never had to send in any documentation, though that has changed this week with Mansion - they won't let me withdraw without sending in a copy of the card. Mansion are noticably stricter than other rooms (otherwise this thread wouldn't be here).

Yes.  PokerStars and Blonde and VCPoker (tribeca).  Withdrawn thousands of dollars, deposited less than a hundred.  Mansion do seem to be a lot more strict.

If you deposit from one card, and then another, you can't withdraw more to one card until you've withdrawn at least the amount you've deposited on the other one.  That doesn't make sense - so I'll use an example.  You deposit $50 on one credit card, withdraw your winnings - say $500 via that card.  Then you make another deposit with another credit card for $50 - you can't then withdraw another $500 winnings to the first card until you've withdrawn at least $50 to the second one.  That's how it worked on tribeca anyway.  I've only used one card on PokerStars - but I've withdrawn far more to it than I deposited.

I always use credit cards online (and offline to be honest), as they provide a lot more protection than using a debit card.  If money is fraudulently taken you can raise the issue and they'll look at it before you have to pay anything - whereas with a debit card you have to claim the money back (i.e. it's already left your account, it's your money).

[roverthtaeh]

Pacific 888:
Deposit - $50 - 15 seconds.
Withdrawal - $750 - 19 days, 4 phone calls to people speaking broken English, 3 emails, and 7 swear words.

For everything else there's Mastercard.

[kinboshi]

Pacific 888:
Deposit - $50 - 15 seconds.
Withdrawal - $750 - 19 days, 4 phone calls to people speaking broken English, 3 emails, and 7 swear words.

For everything else there's Mastercard.

[sledge13]

What a joke...how is it security if they take money off your card so easily?

Try and withdraw they need credit card (both sides) passport (wtf steal your identity?) and probably your height and weight, I have a good wedge to take out and this is taking the proverbial.

If you taketh why not giveth away?



 

[TightPaulFolds]

What a joke...how is it security if they take money off your card so easily?

Try and withdraw they need credit card (both sides) passport (wtf steal your identity?) and probably your height and weight, I have a good wedge to take out and this is taking the proverbial.

If you taketh why not giveth away?




 

Yes, good point, funny it's not been mentioned yet: poker sites that let you ramp up your deposit tenfold and then start 'going all funny' on you when you want to withdraw are skating on very thin ice....

[CelticGeezeer]

Anybody else notice that they never demand a copy of anything when you are making a depoist.

[KingPoker]

There really is no fuss with mansion, sent off my passport and debit card scans (with first 8 digits and my cvc number covered), within 24 hours had an email back saying i had been verified and withdrew. Its no big deal and imo only goes to show that they take security very seriously.
Can you imagine the shit they would be in if they somehow let someone get of of your details so im sure they are airtight in their management of them.
Enough of the conspriacy theories me thinks!

[CelticGeezeer]

There really is no fuss with mansion, sent off my passport and debit card scans (with first 8 digits and my cvc number covered), within 24 hours had an email back saying i had been verified and withdrew. Its no big deal and imo only goes to show that they take security very seriously.
Can you imagine the shit they would be in if they somehow let someone get of of your details so im sure they are airtight in their management of them.
Enough of the conspriacy theories me thinks!

Unlike TK Max ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6508983.stm?ls

[Muahahahaha]

I just tried to make my first withdrawl from Mansion having deposited via neteller.

They've asked me to fax a copy of my driving licence or passport.

Not too tricky.

This is a one off request, so next time ( if there is a next time ) I can just do a simple transfer.

Why doesn't everyone use Neteller ?  I can move funds around between poker accounts without any pain, & easily just transfer from Neteller straight into my bank account, when I've made a profit ( ok my last movement into HSBC was at Xmas, but maybe I'll make a little spending money for my summer hols if I keep at it )

[kinboshi]

I just tried to make my first withdrawl from Mansion having deposited via neteller.

They've asked me to fax a copy of my driving licence or passport.

Not too tricky.

This is a one off request, so next time ( if there is a next time ) I can just do a simple transfer.

Why doesn't everyone use Neteller ?  I can move funds around between poker accounts without any pain, & easily just transfer from Neteller straight into my bank account, when I've made a profit ( ok my last movement into HSBC was at Xmas, but maybe I'll make a little spending money for my summer hols if I keep at it )

Why not have the money go to and from your credit card directly?  You're well protected then.