top uk poker player

[AndrewT]

I original question asks who the best player is  it doesnt mention form

From the poll at the top of the thread.

'who do YOU think is the top uk live player at the moment'

I take this to mean current form is a factor.

[77dave]

Form is temporary  class is permanent

[tikay]

Anyone considered a certain Mr Willie Tann

On current form, no, but certainly he is up there.

I original question asks who the best player is  it doesnt mention form

willie has won up and down the country in europe and has a wsop bracelet

Also Willie is a master of more games than just holdem again the question is top poker player not holdem player

ahh, my apologies - well that makes the question even harder! But I thought it was on "current form".

Pete Costa was unbeatable in, what, 2001?, & I've seen him play "no look" & beat tidy tables.

I'm told Mr Ulliott was pretty handy in his day, too, though I've never seen it in my short time in poker to be honest.

On a ratio of Tourneys played to cashes, Tony Bloom did not do too bad, either, & he's just horrible to have on the table. (But a lovely man).

On a 10 year view, Monty Burns ain't done too bad either.

I experienced John Juanda in a Vegas WSOP Event, & he was awesome. Raymer is better than most rate him to be, too, imo.

I dunno, I'm gonna have to have a think on this. Bugger that sofa-king!

[tikay]

Form is temporary  class is permanent

True, but as I now see, the question was "on current form".......

[77dave]

How recent is form though


Right now of course praz and john Gale

but would you see Ash hussain and Micky Wernick  are now out of form


If you consider other games  not many better Omaha players around than El Blondie

[KingPoker]

I may have to re-enter this debate.

On what TK said i used to really enjoy watching tony bloom play, he seemed very good at reading.and as mentioned got results!

Devilfish is aggressive but not showin form of recent (so sad but gotta be honest, he was my hero when i 1st started)

Elblondie is just a superb all round player in Omaha and NLHE, consitent and welsh!!!!!  

John Juanda is an absolutely awesome tournament and cash players, one of the best readers in the poker world and super aggressive!

[ariston]

John Gale gets it for me. Having played with a fair bit and sat and watched all of the final of this years wsop (not just the snippets of hands you saw on TV) the guy is absolute class. No banging table, no screaming or shouting he just gets the job done. The only other with a record anywhere near his is roland and he would be a very close second. I hear you shouting about praz and yeh hes took down a few events but imo he isnt in the same league as John and Roland until he goes and plays the big comps week in week out (I know he had a very good vegas last year but John and Roland have done it consistantly for a couple of years now)- I dont class a 1k event in bolton or the broadway to be a worldwide event like the ones John and roland have taken down.
anyone who doesn't think John can play is just wrong and jumping on the bandwaggon of forums like 2+2 where they say things like pwned etc. You don't win what hes won without having serious game.

[I KNOW IT]

Anyone considered a certain Mr Willie Tann

On current form, no, but certainly he is up there.

I original question asks who the best player is  it doesnt mention form

willie has won up and down the country in europe and has a wsop bracelet

Also Willie is a master of more games than just holdem again the question is top poker player not holdem player

ahh, my apologies - well that makes the question even harder! But I thought it was on "current form".

Pete Costa was unbeatable in, what, 2001?, & I've seen him play "no look" & beat tidy tables.

I'm told Mr Ulliott was pretty handy in his day, too, though I've never seen it in my short time in poker to be honest.

On a ratio of Tourneys played to cashes, Tony Bloom did not do too bad, either, & he's just horrible to have on the table. (But a lovely man).

On a 10 year view, Monty Burns ain't done too bad either.

I experienced John Juanda in a Vegas WSOP Event, & he was awesome. Raymer is better than most rate him to be, too, imo.

I dunno, I'm gonna have to have a think on this. Bugger that sofa-king!

I wouldnt say Devilfish is out of " form" lately. In december he won an event at the Bellagios 5 diamond festival,and got 1st & 6th in WPO events in Tunica in January. I think Daves trouble is that he cant be arsed in most uk events anymore, but he is still without doubt one of, if not, THE best player in the UK. On a side note, one of the most underestimated live tourny players is Paul Maxfield, shame he doesnt play live much anymore.

[I KNOW IT]

I original question asks who the best player is  it doesnt mention form

From the poll at the top of the thread.

'who do YOU think is the top uk live player at the moment'

I take this to mean current form is a factor.

Why dont u contribute instead of flea picking most posts. Treat us with your pick and the reason why for a change

[tikay]

I original question asks who the best player is  it doesnt mention form

From the poll at the top of the thread.

'who do YOU think is the top uk live player at the moment'

I take this to mean current form is a factor.

Why dont u contribute instead of flea picking most posts. Treat us with your pick and the reason why for a change

He was just defending me Craig. I'd based my picks, as the OP asked, on "current form", but someone queried them. I need someone on my side!

[I KNOW IT]

I original question asks who the best player is  it doesnt mention form

From the poll at the top of the thread.

'who do YOU think is the top uk live player at the moment'

I take this to mean current form is a factor.

Why dont u contribute instead of flea picking most posts. Treat us with your pick and the reason why for a change

He was just defending me Craig. I'd based my picks, as the OP asked, on "current form", but someone queried them. I need someone on my side!

Id still like to hear his pick though

[AndrewT]

I don't really consider myself to be qualified to venture much of an opinion on this one as I hardly play live poker at all. Just looking at results doesn't give much of an insight.

I will say this though. I played in the Will Hill thing last year with Tony G, Donnacha,  Roland and others yet felt they were mortal. Playing on Allen Cunningham's table at the WSOP made me think he was from another planet - by far and away the best player I've come up against.

[I KNOW IT]

I don't really consider myself to be qualified to venture much of an opinion on this one as I hardly play live poker at all. Just looking at results doesn't give much of an insight.

I will say this though. I played in the Will Hill thing last year with Tony G, Donnacha,  Roland and others yet felt they were mortal. Playing on Allen Cunningham's table at the WSOP made me think he was from another planet - by far and away the best player I've come up against.

Watching the other nights episode of William Hill was a good example of Americas finest vs our finest.  Esparandi was in a different league.

[CrestOfaWave]

John Gale gets it for me. Having played with a fair bit and sat and watched all of the final of this years wsop (not just the snippets of hands you saw on TV) the guy is absolute class. No banging table, no screaming or shouting he just gets the job done. The only other with a record anywhere near his is roland and he would be a very close second. I hear you shouting about praz and yeh hes took down a few events but imo he isnt in the same league as John and Roland until he goes and plays the big comps week in week out (I know he had a very good vegas last year but John and Roland have done it consistantly for a couple of years now)- I dont class a 1k event in bolton or the broadway to be a worldwide event like the ones John and roland have taken down.
anyone who doesn't think John can play is just wrong and jumping on the bandwaggon of forums like 2+2 where they say things like pwned etc. You don't win what hes won without having serious game.

John lost it a bit at the Walsall event when his stack was dwindling on the table around level 7 of the first day. He got quite wound up by a waitress who was squeezing past the back of him to deliver drinks. (3-4 times in an hour) I think he wouldnt have been so snappy if his chip momentum was going up. Nice bloke though and to him its all about getting the right odds to call when chasing a draw.

[tikay]

John Gale gets it for me. Having played with a fair bit and sat and watched all of the final of this years wsop (not just the snippets of hands you saw on TV) the guy is absolute class. No banging table, no screaming or shouting he just gets the job done. The only other with a record anywhere near his is roland and he would be a very close second. I hear you shouting about praz and yeh hes took down a few events but imo he isnt in the same league as John and Roland until he goes and plays the big comps week in week out (I know he had a very good vegas last year but John and Roland have done it consistantly for a couple of years now)- I dont class a 1k event in bolton or the broadway to be a worldwide event like the ones John and roland have taken down.
anyone who doesn't think John can play is just wrong and jumping on the bandwaggon of forums like 2+2 where they say things like pwned etc. You don't win what hes won without having serious game.

 
John lost it a bit at the Walsall event when his stack was dwindling on the table around level 7 of the first day. He got quite wound up by a waitress who was squeezing past the back of him to deliver drinks. (3-4 times in an hour) I think he wouldnt have been so snappy if his chip momentum was going up. Nice bloke though and to him its all about getting the right odds to call when chasing a draw.

He is the most "mathematical" & odds conscious player I've ever met. You have to be so careful when playing John, if you give him the odds, he disregards his cards & the chips go in. He knows - precisely - the odds of any scenario.