Calling Tikay

[bookiebasher]

Played with Tk in deuville, both agreed standard of play was poor. Why risk going out of the touney to win a bag of spanners ?
Its not because their great aggressive players, its because their weak and hate making decisions. They would rather go with lady luck than see a flop and decide for themselves.
As in life, some people hate making really big decisions and thats because of one thing FEAR.

[tikay]

Well said bookiebasher.

And for those that do not know, bookiebasher is Jamie Moult, who played 3 comps in Deauville. He finished 5th in the 500E Freezeout - and he had a hellish seat in the Final - & won the 1,000E Freezeout, in a Final that included Devilfish, Willie Tann, & King of the Lairy's Riverdave Penly, so he speaks from experience about the standard of play generally in Deauville.

And even Riverdave, the supreme all night at it merchant, never, or only very sparingly, uses the "shove 'em all-in & hope" method. Same applies to Devlfish & Willie, these guys PLAY......

The structure of EPT events, given that the sponsor is PokerStars & they (quite rightly) flog it to death, means that there are an abnormally high number of online qualifiers in these events. And I am not in the "internet players are crap" camp, not at all, but it's a different game online.

So, for example I had Elky on my table in one comp in Deauville. Elky plays on Stars for amounts I can only dream about, & he's hugely successful I am told. But he had NO IDEA what to do in "live" play in Deauville. He must have passed out of turn, or bet out of turn, a hundred times. Thing is, online it's IMPOSSIBBLE to act out of turn, the software wont allow it.

Another guy persistently "checked" inside the betting line when he had a stack of big chips in his hand - tapped the table with his pile of chips in effect. Eventually, some geezer says "that's a bet" & all hell broke loose! Mind you, he was French.

And I think part of this is what AndyG alluded to earlier.

Keep it coming guys, this is fascinating stuff.

[bookiebasher]

" Had a hellish seat in the final " ....presume that's because you were sat to my immediate right, raising my BB with 94 off, but hasten to add, not going allin !!!!
Would rather play the all in merchants any day of the week. They may win 99 % of the time they go all in, the problem is the other 1%.

[tikay]

Yeah, but I tried the 9-4 trick with the Boy Thewy in Gutshot with an even better hand - T-2 - & the idiot called with Q-2.......

But we PLAYED, that's the difference. Pitted our wits & played, not just moved all-in. If I wanted to play Bingo I could have gone anywhere. Blackpool, for example......

[stewart]

less of the blackpool jabs!, lol

[tikay]

You a Blackpool boy then? Hush now, that's our little secret.

[Ironside]

the all in move is sometimes the only move available
with a decent structure and a nice blind to average stack ratio
the all in is not needed problem is all too often there isnt enough chips
to raise and fold so the only play is to raise all in

i played last night and after the rebuys i was only all in twice

once after the river when i had the nuts and a player bet into me
with obly 1.5 x his raise back i cant really not go all in

and the 2nd time after bet 50% of my stack from cutoff
with AJs (PLHE) for the BB to defend with 66 i am left with no option
but to call

played properly geting all your chips in the middle should be a weapon rarely used

[tikay]

"a weapon rarely used". Spot on. Used that way, it's a potent weapon, but do it every time, & you gonna get caught eventually.

We seem to be unanimous on this - where are you buzzer?

[bookiebasher]

He must have took his batteries out

[tikay]

 

Beauty Jimbo.......

[Buzzer]

Where is Buzzer? Here he is, just returning from the football game Bayern Munich vs Chelsea London. Was almost as exciting as playing poker.

Tikay, being a newbie here I did not know opening a new thread means automatically having to constantly stay online and having to defend myself...

Kidding apart I made my point and do not have too much to add. But I will try to clarify:
* No, I do not like early allins like for 10.000 to win 400 etc.
* But I think an allin play (pre-flop, after the flop, after the turn or after the river) can be a mathematically correct play more often than some of you (including Tikay) may think
* The above is especially true with big blindes/antes and late in tourney or near the bubble
* An allin takes away the possibility of a re-steal (re-resteal or re-re-resteal)

Like Ivey said to Lederer: "You get your chips your way, I get them my way...."

[tikay]

Nicely concluded buzzer, you sure started a good thread there, well done.

Did Chelsea win? More importantly - MUCH more important - did the mighty Brentford beat Tranmere?

[Colchester Kev]

Brentford won ..which means Luton are promoted

[tikay]

Brentford won? Whahoo! Another goal avalanche no doubt.

[Lou]

Yep it was a whopper - 1-0!!!