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quantify
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 18, 2007, 10:27:47 PM »
thankyou for that indepth explanation and discussion on whether using tables skills such as this is class or not,
let me try to explain how to use this to your advantage , if you benefit from it , it doesnt offend or allow the floor to be called then use it.
This whole strategy enables you to enter into the pschye of the person you are doin battle with, moves like this also allow your subconcious time to pick out situations that have happened throughout the hand , inwat is a 3 minute betting process
ie me betting ,lam calling, allowed me to think quite rightly i was ahead , hence i was comfortable, the river card changed my comfort level...... i now had no idea were i was ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i new he wasnt callin with aj he wud reraise me to find out were he was..................i new he wasnt holding qt etc etc
sooooooo i went from being in control to losing control......... you wud prob have to call him cos you would not have gained the extra info i didi.
now the real reason i use this method is to gaug the instant reaction of the player ,,,,,,,,, and their reaction is instant. now this allows my subconcious to run through the fact that he raised preflopp and called my reraise so he had a premuim hand ........... flop bet he flat caled rules out ak aq cud be aj but he wudda folded pre flop.........
he flat calls turn wat did the 8 do for him , it kept him imnterested , there is a rainbow board so if he had 99 he now has second pair then a gut shot ,,,,,,,,, river comes BINGOOOOOOOOO HE HITS HIS CARD...... . MY INSTA REACTION WHEN I FIRST STARTED WUD BE CALL I GOT ACES.........
now i was rerasied n river i got a reaction out of him , this allowed me to gain some control , he had reacted ,,,,,, i needed to WORK THE STORY OUT this extra information closed the booked and alowed my subconcious to end the STORY....................
I FOLD I SURVIVE..........................thats why it is a class move ,,, in lams case it wasnt class because he had the info and didnt END THE STORY ..................HE CALLED SNOOPY.
this is much deeper that some clown pushing his chips toward the line ..........................
POKER IS A GAME OF SKILL AND PYSCHOLOGY HAS A MASSIVE IMPACT ON YOUR GAME LONGTERM , watch negranu in this years wsop he guessed correctly 3 times wat cards people had in their hand and lost alll his chips ........................ thats a perfect case of class table chat and acting . 2 years ago he would have got all their chips............
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 19, 2007, 12:18:45 AM »
Lol classy angle shooting.
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 22, 2007, 01:32:18 AM »
as the streets go quiet to the sound of a cooll southern breeze...
here endethh the ;lesson;)
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 23, 2007, 06:28:25 PM »
Quote from: quantify on October 18, 2007, 10:27:47 PM
thankyou for that indepth explanation and discussion on whether using tables skills such as this is class or not,
let me try to explain how to use this to your advantage , if you benefit from it , it doesnt offend or allow the floor to be called then use it.
This whole strategy enables you to enter into the pschye of the person you are doin battle with, moves like this also allow your subconcious time to pick out situations that have happened throughout the hand , inwat is a 3 minute betting process
ie me betting ,lam calling, allowed me to think quite rightly i was ahead , hence i was comfortable, the river card changed my comfort level...... i now had no idea were i was ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i new he wasnt callin with aj he wud reraise me to find out were he was..................i new he wasnt holding qt etc etc
sooooooo i went from being in control to losing control......... you wud prob have to call him cos you would not have gained the extra info i didi.
now the real reason i use this method is to gaug the instant reaction of the player ,,,,,,,,, and their reaction is instant. now this allows my subconcious to run through the fact that he raised preflopp and called my reraise so he had a premuim hand ........... flop bet he flat caled rules out ak aq cud be aj but he wudda folded pre flop.........
he flat calls turn wat did the 8 do for him , it kept him imnterested , there is a rainbow board so if he had 99 he now has second pair then a gut shot ,,,,,,,,, river comes BINGOOOOOOOOO HE HITS HIS CARD...... . MY INSTA REACTION WHEN I FIRST STARTED WUD BE CALL I GOT ACES.........
now i was rerasied n river i got a reaction out of him , this allowed me to gain some control , he had reacted ,,,,,, i needed to WORK THE STORY OUT this extra information closed the booked and alowed my subconcious to end the STORY....................
I FOLD I SURVIVE..........................thats why it is a class move ,,, in lams case it wasnt class because he had the info and didnt END THE STORY ..................HE CALLED SNOOPY.
this is much deeper that some clown pushing his chips toward the line ..........................
POKER IS A GAME OF SKILL AND PYSCHOLOGY HAS A MASSIVE IMPACT ON YOUR GAME LONGTERM , watch negranu in this years wsop he guessed correctly 3 times wat cards people had in their hand and lost alll his chips ........................ thats a perfect case of class table chat and acting . 2 years ago he would have got all their chips............
but what exactly is classy about it? I understand that it's effective..I don't understand why it would be deemed classy.
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 24, 2007, 12:06:10 AM »
effective is a step forward so we will leave it at that ,you are warming to the idea ......... i refer you to your previous commments , look how far you have come.
the fact that it is a class move, is personal, i suppose, but it is a subtle move used in the right situation , if it was used by a div everytime it wud look stupid , but it wa instinctive when i first tried it, i dont know were i got it from , i must have seen it before. so combining the sublety of it in a big comp in a situation that suited the move made it feel classy.........
i have used it once since in a festival at bpool , the affect it caused was to make the oponent go allin before my chips hit the line............that was diiferent situation but it had the same affect.........didnt feel as good as the other situation but had the same result.......
it wud be useful next time you coment on a thread to put your side of the arguement rther than just one lining it as crap......... save me some ink
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 24, 2007, 04:02:21 AM »
Angle shooting is effective and shouldn't confused with out playing people.
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 24, 2007, 11:18:07 AM »
Quote from: CelticGeezeer on October 24, 2007, 04:02:21 AM
Angle shooting is effective and shouldn't confused with out playing people.
I think you have no idea of what quantifies angle shooting/stroking. Counting chips out behind an action line then checking is not even close to falling in the category of questionable behaviour.
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Re: A moody, or legit?
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October 24, 2007, 03:09:59 PM »
Quote from: quantify on October 24, 2007, 12:06:10 AM
i have used it once since in a festival at bpool , the affect it caused was to make the oponent go allin before my chips hit the line............that was diiferent situation but it had the same affect.........didnt feel as good as the other situation but had the same result.......
That is angle shooting. You are forcing someone into making a mistake rather than getting a read from them.
There is nothing classy about that move.
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