Blonde 'Beginners League' - Anyone interested?

[boldie]

I've been playing since Feb, and still class myself as very much a beginner. 

As time has gone by I feel I have learnt loads from the blonde leagues, the threads and general play time BUT at the same time the more I have read up the more I seem to have 'lost' that 'gamblers' edge/instinct/cohonas even that I had right at the beginning.  My play has tightened up too much I think and a league like this where the cards are exposed after every hand (which is equivalent to the hole card cameras really) could be very beneficial to those, like me, who play too close to ABC poker. Yes we do OK, often going deep into tourny's, sometimes cashing big, BUT as someone mentioned on another thread that the mindset seems to be more emphasised on going deep rather than WINNING. Play to win don't play to go deep.

I think everybody goes through that evolution of "Absolute beginner playing any pretty hand" to "ABC poker as it's profitable and the "right" thing to do" to  "player with their own style" it's a pretty long transition period and one I sure as hell haven't completed yet but i think that if you realise the rewards are all in that latter category you will be OK...it's nothing to be too concerned about I bet ya that in a few months you will get that "gambler" edge back again

[HOLDorFOLD]

I've been playing since Feb, and still class myself as very much a beginner. 

As time has gone by I feel I have learnt loads from the blonde leagues, the threads and general play time BUT at the same time the more I have read up the more I seem to have 'lost' that 'gamblers' edge/instinct/cohonas even that I had right at the beginning.  My play has tightened up too much I think and a league like this where the cards are exposed after every hand (which is equivalent to the hole card cameras really) could be very beneficial to those, like me, who play too close to ABC poker. Yes we do OK, often going deep into tourny's, sometimes cashing big, BUT as someone mentioned on another thread that the mindset seems to be more emphasised on going deep rather than WINNING. Play to win don't play to go deep.

I think everybody goes through that evolution of "Absolute beginner playing any pretty hand" to "ABC poker as it's profitable and the "right" thing to do" to  "player with their own style" it's a pretty long transition period and one I sure as hell haven't completed yet but i think that if you realise the rewards are all in that latter category you will be OK...it's nothing to be too concerned about I bet ya that in a few months you will get that "gambler" edge back again

Hope so Boldie, my bankroll is dwindling       I've noticed its gradually starting to creep back into my game and along with it the 'enjoyment' of playing.  I think the reading up on everything I could lay my hands on took away some of the natural enjoyment of the game that I orginally had.  That's returned now along with the enthusiasm.

[TheChipPrince]

I think people themselves know if they are a beginner, but but whatever 'rules' are put in place for this, ultimately its going to be down to individuals to be honest with themselves...

[Laxie]

I think people themselves know if they are a beginner, but but whatever 'rules' are put in place for this, ultimately its going to be down to individuals to be honest with themselves...

EXACTLY! 

Just seeing some of the bluffs, or what others are calling/raising with will help a lot.  Also, being advised by the tutors that a pre-flop raise wasn't big enough, or that a post flop call could have been made as the pot odds where there for you to call it etc. Things like that which the beginners hear about but not nessessarily have digested yet.

You explain my reasons for the 'no mucking' rule perfectly!  Most have said 'reading is fine, but putting it into practise is the best way of learning.'  This wouldn't be set up like the regular Blonde league, but more of a tutoring league.  Like I said before and have heard others mention, the section is great if you're one of those people who can visualise and soak it in from reading the posts.  Others need to see it in practise to fully grasp the different concepts.  We'd have luxury of both if this works out.  At the end of the day, we can put it to a vote if there seems to be split opinion.  Nothing is written in stone yet.

[RichEO]

I've been playing since Feb, and still class myself as very much a beginner. 

As time has gone by I feel I have learnt loads from the blonde leagues, the threads and general play time BUT at the same time the more I have read up the more I seem to have 'lost' that 'gamblers' edge/instinct/cohonas even that I had right at the beginning.  My play has tightened up too much I think and a league like this where the cards are exposed after every hand (which is equivalent to the hole card cameras really) could be very beneficial to those, like me, who play too close to ABC poker. Yes we do OK, often going deep into tourny's, sometimes cashing big, BUT as someone mentioned on another thread that the mindset seems to be more emphasised on going deep rather than WINNING. Play to win don't play to go deep.

Can't win them all.

Sounds like you might make a good cash grinder. Play some low stakes cash and give the bankroll a boost.