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February 24, 2008, 01:58:37 AM »
It's quite likely that Taylor has taken Eduardo's livelihood away.
It's very difficult to prove either way whether there was any malice involved here. My feeling is these tackles are so prevalent now they're far too often dismissed as clumsy. If you're a 14 stone footballer thundering into a player studs up midway up the players shin, what are you expecting to happen? It's either malicious or you're not a good enough player to play at that level.
I think there's an element of xenophobia that influences the media's response to incidents that involve Arsenal..you might say that's unreasonable or paranoid as I'm an Arsenal fan, but it would be interesting to see how the media might have responded had this been Emmanuel Eboue breaking Wayne Rooney's leg or Micheal Owens leg. Someone has already expressed their dislike of Eboue on this thread.
I hope this acts as a wake up call to players. Too many of these kinds of tackles have been flying about. It's not unlucky if you play this way and actually do end someone's career, the truth is you're lucky if you don't. Far too many players have been on the end of these kinds of tackles this season. It's a senseless waste of talent. Eduardo had the potential to be one of the greats, I'm gutted for him.
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February 24, 2008, 02:04:57 AM »
before anyone comments I must say I haven't yet seen the tackle, just the after effects.
I've played football for 18 years, and these kind of injuries can happen at any time. My best mate at college had a similar thing happen to him, with it being a fair tackle.
the one thing I would like to add is Michael Owen's tackle on Vidic today was just as likely to have a similar result, but as luck would have it, it didnt. I wonder what would be said if he had broken Vidics leg???
What Arsene Wenger said is also totally wrong, but he's just showing that he is human, and he obv cares a great deal about his players.
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Re: Eduardo broken leg [Contains images of the break - not for the squeamish]
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February 24, 2008, 10:00:09 AM »
Quote from: WarBwastard on February 24, 2008, 01:58:37 AM
I think there's an
element of xenophobia
that influences the media's response to incidents that involve Arsenal..you might say that's unreasonable or paranoid as I'm an Arsenal fan, but it would be interesting to see how the media might have responded had this been Emmanuel Eboue breaking Wayne Rooney's leg or Micheal Owens leg.
Someone has already expressed their dislike of Eboue on this thread.
Thats nonsense. Arsenal get praised in the media week after week for the free playing football, Whinger is rightly acclaimed as a top class manager who has a great eye for talent. Arsenal get it in the neck in some cases because their manager never seems to see anything that involves one of his players, and because over the years they have had players who are thugs on the park.
It was me who earlier expressed my dislike of Eboue, and I would have the same ill feelings towards anybody who recklessly and dangerously put in sill challenges week after week, wether it be aiming high or going in with studs up.
I appreciate football is a mans game and its a contact sport, infact I like to watch a game with passion and tackles flying in. But when these tackles go in they have to be fair, the difference with Eboue is you can see the intent. The guy is a thug pure and simple.
Having watched the challenge yesterday, I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. He looked genuinley gutted at the time and you could see the dissapointment in his face at the red card. Further Alex McLeish came out after the game and expressed his opinion that Taylor was in the dressing room distressed at the incident.
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February 24, 2008, 12:26:08 PM »
I think the tackle was not a good one but also I dont think it was done on purpose.
I'm dont think many if any players go into a tackle to break someones leg. I have caused 2 quite serious injurys whilst playing football and I was gutted both times. Neither time was a foul given against me they were just accidents.
I broke someones leg quite badly, in fact that badly the game was abandoned. The guy spent a few days in hospital. The other time I broke the guys collar bone after we collided and he fell awkwardly. Both times I felt so bad. So I can imagine how bad this guy feels after breaking Eduardo's leg.
What Wenger said I dont agree with but it was just after the game that we shoud have won, we made a mistake at the back then had a bad decision against us for the penalty. On top of that he had to deal with his captain acting like a petulant idiot. I'm sure the guy didnt go out with the intent to put one into Eduardo or anyone else for that matter but I think he did deserve the red card.
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February 24, 2008, 07:00:02 PM »
he was done by the pace and trickery of eduardo. yes it was a little reckless and maybe he wanted to go in "hard" early in the game let him no his there like plenty of players before him have done. but it wasnt malicious imo.
and to say if a player makes a challenge like that isnt good enough to play at that level is laughable. surely said by someone who has never played football at a decent level, the higher the level the quicker and more skillful the player so no how good a defender is he will still mistime tackles.
football is a mans game and these tackles happen often unfortunatly for eduardo his foot was planted at the time of taylors impact a hundreth of a second either way at it might not have been so damaging.
it was a clumsy mistimed challenge that had bad consequences, punish all of those as severe as some would like and we wouldnt have many players left in the league.
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February 24, 2008, 07:12:44 PM »
Looking at the video clips the tackle didn't look that bad TBH. I don't think it's premeditated in terms of ' I want to 'do' Eduardo here and injure him'. However it is a tackle that is common place in football i.e. 'I'm here putting my foot in and if you get close i'll have you'
As has already been mentioned, and shown in the still photo, is that Eduardo had his foot on the ground and weight bearing.
Classic Tib and Fib break. he will NEVER recover to the same physical condition, or even close.
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I hadnt seen this til last night and have to agree it is a very sickening unfortunate injury but I don't think it was a determined attempt to hurt Eduardo. I was really shocked at Wengers interview calling for Taylor to 'never play the game again' and I'm glad he retracted it later, it was quite disturbing to see him stand up to interview when clearly suffering at the time too. He went up in my estimation by holding himself together and realising that he was a little out of order in the interview.
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February 25, 2008, 09:59:46 AM »
I'm squimish and cant look at page 1! Bet he was on the morphine sat night, poor b*stard...
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Quote from: bobby1 on February 25, 2008, 07:34:24 AM
I hadnt seen this til last night and have to agree it is a very sickening unfortunate injury but I don't think it was a determined attempt to hurt Eduardo. I was really shocked at Wengers interview calling for Taylor to 'never play the game again' and I'm glad he retracted it later, it was quite disturbing to see him stand up to interview when clearly suffering at the time too. He went up in my estimation by holding himself together and realising that he was a little out of order in the interview.
indeed...There would have been several managers who would have said a similar thing right after the game and enver rectracted their statements..Well done to him for that.
Players have been getting away with tackles like this for a fair while now and I'm sure that if Eduardo had not been injured this badly the ref would only have given a yellow card. Now we know why tackles like this should always be a straght red. Any studs first challenge should mean you're off the pitch.
I hope Eduardo recovers but it's a very nasty break and i think his career might be over.
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Re: Eduardo broken leg [Contains images of the break - not for the squeamish]
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February 25, 2008, 02:43:00 PM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7263029.stm
Interesting article, where Busst talks about his injury. Again, not really for the squeamish.
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February 25, 2008, 03:25:42 PM »
Someone should be able to come up with a technical solution to the problem here.
If there's a magnitude of force that is likely to result in a high risk of a break, there should be a way to translate that into a lateral force across the sole of the boot that causes the sole to give way and therefore releases the leg. You might not be able to prevent pain but it might be possible to reduce the chances of the worst kind of injuries such as this one?
There you go, I've set the challenge. Design a boot that gives the players the grip they want but which has a safety-quick-release feature for the sole. Either the sole comes off or the studs/blades are designed to sheer off if required.
Whoever solves it can keep the profits. I just want to keep talented and entertaining players playing as long as possible. I watch a PeterTaylor managed side so I know there's precious little enough entertainment in the game - players like Eduardo need to be protected.
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Quote from: kenjude on February 25, 2008, 03:25:42 PM
Someone should be able to come up with a technical solution to the problem here.
If there's a magnitude of force that is likely to result in a high risk of a break, there should be a way to translate that into a lateral force across the sole of the boot that causes the sole to give way and therefore releases the leg. You might not be able to prevent pain but it might be possible to reduce the chances of the worst kind of injuries such as this one?
There you go, I've set the challenge. Design a boot that gives the players the grip they want but which has a safety-quick-release feature for the sole. Either the sole comes off or the studs/blades are designed to sheer off if required.
Whoever solves it can keep the profits. I just want to keep talented and entertaining players playing as long as possible. I watch a PeterTaylor managed side so I know there's precious little enough entertainment in the game - players like Eduardo need to be protected.
Guaranteed it'll be something nike and adidas will already be working on but it'll a hard technology to perfect- think how fast some players like aaron lennon and ronaldo turn- there must be so much force on their legs when they twist and turn so to get it not to release then but to release with a leg break would be very hard- but I think it will eventually be something we would see in a decade or 2
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Modern medicine eh, Eduardo back on his feet in 6 months and playing again in 9!
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Quote from: Silo Graham on February 25, 2008, 05:06:17 PM
Modern medicine eh, Eduardo back on his feet in 6 months and playing again in 9!
good for him..I just hope his recovery goes well as sticking his leg in a cast is just the start of it and many things can go wrong. Good to hear though and I hope he does a Larsson and comes back better than ever.
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I think on his feet and playing should be used as very loose descriptions. Being able to 'run' is one thing. Being able to run pain free and with a necessary degree of movement in the joints is completely different.
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