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« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2008, 05:42:06 PM »

Good point by Horneris about Albertas Run.If you can forgive him his runs this season.He beat air force one easily at Cheltenham and at Ascot giving him 3lbs,last season.Could be a bit of value ew at 33/1.

I cant take the praise for writing that, i took it from somewhere.

I think a chunky EW bet on Cloudy Lane @ 6/1 in the big race at Wetherby is the best option, as long as it keeps to 8 runners.
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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2008, 07:41:17 PM »

Kauto...6-4? Yes please. The horse hasn't shown any chinks really..He got beat by Denman in the GC..but there is nothing of that calibre in this race and the horses left in this race can't gallop Kauto into the ground like Denman did. He made a mistake when beating a nose by Our Vic..but that was at the end of a long season and he slipped last time out..he still would have won that if he hadn't.

At 6-4 I'm looking for a bank that will let me remortgage the house, will surely not be backing anything else in this race.

Voy Por Ustedes can only win if Kauto slips up..but should stay.

Imperial Commander is interesting but Twiston Davies's yard is collosally out of form so I can't see this getting more than a place either.

Our Vic is the forgotten horse in the race..9-1 looks a fair price if Kauto slips up he could very well win this...but I reckon Kauto is a good thing.



boldie i dont agree with your analysis of kauto at all, yes he got trounced by denman which is forgivable but it was a hard race, it took a lot out of him chasing denman round cheltnham.

Then it comes out in a 5/6 runner race at aintree and gets bt by our vic, he made some terrible mistakes in that race but they were the mistakes of a tired horse and was lucky to stay up, out vic is a decent horse but  kauto should be running all over our vic even if he's made mistakes in the race, the horse just didnt look the same to me.

Then first time out this year we learn nothing about the horse, another 5 or 6 runner race where the only half decent horse in the race was the listener and that clearly didnt run any race and finished last, any half decent chaser wouldve trounced the horses that finished 2nd and third.

Then last time out had so many parallels with its run at aintree, It looked beaten to me when it fell and again it was tired fall, he may have grinded out the win if he'd stayed up but he was bang under pressure when he fell and the jockey had been asking him for a long way.

Thats the last 4 races(three of which he's been beat in) that raise serious questions about the horse.

At a price like that i dont want to be guessing and to me the horse just isnt the same(i'm not writing the horse off, he's still at 8yo after all) and even though it doesnt seem the greatest field in the world tomorrow he's proved that if he's not up for it, not fit or if he's just not the horse he once was he's vulnerable to much lesser opposition than he was beating + years ago.
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2008, 09:52:53 AM »

Good point by Horneris about Albertas Run.If you can forgive him his runs this season.He beat air force one easily at Cheltenham and at Ascot giving him 3lbs,last season.Could be a bit of value ew at 33/1.

I cant take the praise for writing that, i took it from somewhere.

I think a chunky EW bet on Cloudy Lane @ 6/1 in the big race at Wetherby is the best option, as long as it keeps to 8 runners.
I like Standing Obligation EW in the Wetherby race.Ran a cracker on seasonal debut,has no weight to carry and the assistance of young claimer Ryan Mania is best young jockey i've seen for a long time.
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2008, 02:50:01 PM »

I take it Kauto put every doubter in his place now?

What a race, what a horse!..That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.
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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2008, 02:51:45 PM »

Good point by Horneris about Albertas Run.If you can forgive him his runs this season.He beat air force one easily at Cheltenham and at Ascot giving him 3lbs,last season.Could be a bit of value ew at 33/1.

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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2008, 02:52:25 PM »

That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.

Forget about this if denman runs
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2008, 02:58:39 PM »

That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.

Forget about this if denman runs

We haven't seen Denman yet this season...and I would have to see a supreme performance from Danmen before the GC to go against Kauto
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2008, 03:06:59 PM »

That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.

Forget about this if denman runs

We haven't seen Denman yet this season...and I would have to see a supreme performance from Danmen before the GC to go against Kauto

if denman diidt have a run then but the stable was pleased with it and said it was buzzing how would how bet he two?
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2008, 03:09:47 PM »

That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.

Forget about this if denman runs

We haven't seen Denman yet this season...and I would have to see a supreme performance from Danmen before the GC to go against Kauto

if denman diidt have a run then but the stable was pleased with it and said it was buzzing how would how bet he two?

If Denman hadn't bveen out before the GC you can't possibly back it to win it and I am sure Kauto would start off as favourite between the 2.
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2008, 03:16:27 PM »

That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.

Forget about this if denman runs

We haven't seen Denman yet this season...and I would have to see a supreme performance from Danmen before the GC to go against Kauto

if denman diidt have a run then but the stable was pleased with it and said it was buzzing how would how bet he two?

If Denman hadn't bveen out before the GC you can't possibly back it to win it and I am sure Kauto would start off as favourite between the 2.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/cheltenham-festival/cheltenham-gold-cup

I dont know if these have been amended to reflect todays run, seems ridic big about kauto to me.
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2008, 03:18:19 PM »

That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.

Forget about this if denman runs

We haven't seen Denman yet this season...and I would have to see a supreme performance from Danmen before the GC to go against Kauto

if denman diidt have a run then but the stable was pleased with it and said it was buzzing how would how bet he two?

If Denman hadn't bveen out before the GC you can't possibly back it to win it and I am sure Kauto would start off as favourite between the 2.

Kauto presently 3.95, all but 3/1 on Betfair, Denman is 2/1 for the GC.
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2008, 03:19:26 PM »

That was the last time you will ever get odds against on Kauto guys.

Forget about this if denman runs

We haven't seen Denman yet this season...and I would have to see a supreme performance from Danmen before the GC to go against Kauto

if denman diidt have a run then but the stable was pleased with it and said it was buzzing how would how bet he two?

If Denman hadn't bveen out before the GC you can't possibly back it to win it and I am sure Kauto would start off as favourite between the 2.

Kauto presently 3.95, all but 3/1 on Betfair, Denman is 2/1 for the GC.

4/1 with pp, seems big even too me but Denman is a worth jolly IMO
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2008, 03:22:12 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2008, 03:24:10 PM »

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you can laugh if you backed it now but imagine you had it for a lump, you'd of been going mental!

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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2008, 03:59:55 PM »

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