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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2009, 07:55:22 PM »


For some people culture is what grows on rotten food.



Sky+ I haven't watched it yet, Dancing on Ice FTW.

Just wanted to see those two comments together, surreal Smiley

Its a fair cop.

Its supposedly celebrities but I don't know any of them.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009, 07:57:10 PM »

Lol, it turns out Zabeen only put Dancing on Ice on to try and stop me surfing and pay her some attention.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 08:12:39 PM »


For some people culture is what grows on rotten food.



Sky+ I haven't watched it yet, Dancing on Ice FTW.

Just wanted to see those two comments together, surreal Smiley


 
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 10:19:32 PM »

I missed the Victorians at 9pm on the bbc as well, sigh!

I'm not sure an eastenders spin off counts as culture though
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 01:12:59 PM »

[   ]  the bible is a true story
[   ]  god exists
[ x ]  darwin was right
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2009, 01:23:56 PM »

Darwin studied theology at Cambridge to become a minister. He also wrote that he believed that natural design proved that god exsisted. He was actually quite religious. So I guess you are saying Darwin was right, God exists?
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2009, 01:27:11 PM »

Proper education has rendered religion virtually obsolete in Britain and a variety of other countries throughout the world, there are +'s and -'s to this but overall it has to be a good thing.

It will be a massive step towards ending conflict in the world when the Americans (Obama is almost certainly too intelligent to actually be religious but for obvious reasons he must pretend to be) and the Middle East catch up.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2009, 01:56:31 PM »

Darwin studied theology at Cambridge to become a minister. He also wrote that he believed that natural design proved that god exsisted. He was actually quite religious. So I guess you are saying Darwin was right, God exists?

Which creationist workbook did this come from?

Yes, he originally studied to be a minister before dropping out, but once he started seriously considering evolution in the course of the 20 years or so it took him to write Origin of Species, he became about as atheist as it was possible to be in the mid 1800's. And there's fairly vast amounts of documentary evidence (letters, diaries, etc) to prove that. So yes, Darwin was right, God probably doesn't exist.
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2009, 02:05:11 PM »

Lots of evidence to say he did / did not believe in God. That was the point of my post, no one really knows. I suggest you read his autobiography the whole way through.

Very few things in life can be confirmed as Facts hence why a little faith is required Smiley funny eh.
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2009, 02:27:18 PM »

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/darwin_autobiography.html
Darwin's autobiography electronically.

Religion, regardless of whether it is a positive or a negative influence on humans, is a stunningly flawed concept. In any other field if there is absolutely no evidence for something it is assumed not to exist.

Thanks in part to Darwin's work we will eventually evolve to a position where we don't need religion and can live without this unneccesarry delusion.
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2009, 02:40:48 PM »

Lots of evidence to say he did / did not believe in God. That was the point of my post, no one really knows. I suggest you read his autobiography the whole way through.

Very few things in life can be confirmed as Facts hence why a little faith is required Smiley funny eh.

Which version of the autobiography is that? The one published at his death with the god-denying bits removed for Victorian sensibilities, or the one published 100 years later with all the original bits in.

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"Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but at last was complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a single second that my conclusion was correct." (p.87)

Try the bottom of the Wikipedia page for more quotes.

I'm sorry, but there is a lot of evidence to say a started out believing in God and he winded up not believing that any god existed. You don't need faith when have facts. FACT Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »

If people didn't need faith then it seems strange so many people look for one. Equally it's strange that so many people spend their lives seeking ways to disprove faith and religon.

I say let them believe in what they want, who are we to piss on someones fire?
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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2009, 03:01:41 PM »

"I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men."

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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2009, 07:05:19 PM »

If people didn't need faith then it seems strange so many people look for one. Equally it's strange that so many people spend their lives seeking ways to disprove faith and religon.

I say let them believe in what they want, who are we to piss on someones fire?

no one will stop you believing what you like - but dont make things up just to suit your arguements There is lot of factual documentation re Darwin - he certainly didnt believe that god created the world etc!!!!!! He wrote and documented much of his later life in diaries! We are fortunate he had such foresight!

what makes me laugh is if someone made this up today they would be 'mad' - yet people freely believe in a baseless faith/religion! Look at the Moormons - plain idiocy what they believe in - that God returned to ...................... America  (oh yeah) in the 1800's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW - did i tell you Elvis bowled up at my house in the middle of the night and we had a beer! It was nice!
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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2009, 07:10:18 PM »

Fvck didnt mean to start a god/godless debate again
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