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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2009, 11:57:25 AM »

ah..so every snotty comment you have made since the staking thing started, and that's just about every comment you made in reply to a post of mine in that period, was because I made a mistake by associating Venetia Williams with Best Mate (obv a mistake) and because I don't rate her as a trainer and you obviously do.

That explains everything, it doesn't mean you're a nasty little man at all...just that you have a little man-crush on Venetia (Fair enough) and I apologise for not thinking she's the beez knees.

And a horse can only be called great if his offspring is great? Judging the man by the achievements of his kids.



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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2009, 12:11:29 PM »


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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2009, 12:31:24 PM »

ah..so every snotty comment you have made since the staking thing started, and that's just about every comment you made in reply to a post of mine in that period, was because I made a mistake by associating Venetia Williams with Best Mate (obv a mistake) and because I don't rate her as a trainer and you obviously do.

That explains everything, it doesn't mean you're a nasty little man at all...just that you have a little man-crush on Venetia (Fair enough) and I apologise for not thinking she's the beez knees.

And a horse can only be called great if his offspring is great? Judging the man by the achievements of his kids.





I'll ignore the flaming that you obviously feel the need to defend yourself with when your foolish statements come home to roost and just answer your last attempt at a sarcastic question which is actually surprisingly quite valid.

I reckon that most people who have really studied racing would say that Northern Dancer was the greatest racehorse of all time if asked to name one horse.

This would be as much for his exploits at stud where he is considered in a class of his own as his bloodlines continue to flourish and  produce champions several generations on, as for his record as a racehorse and winning the triple-crown in the USA.

There have been several triple-crown winners in the last fifty years but none has been anything remotely like as sucessful at stud and their names are all but forgotten although their bare  racetrack statistics would suggest that there would not be much between them .
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2009, 12:33:26 PM »

Interesting thread in here if we could both stop throwing brickbats at each other fellas!

Don't want to delete the thread, don't want to edit it, but please..no more. Tyvm.
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2009, 12:53:02 PM »

ah..so every snotty comment you have made since the staking thing started, and that's just about every comment you made in reply to a post of mine in that period, was because I made a mistake by associating Venetia Williams with Best Mate (obv a mistake) and because I don't rate her as a trainer and you obviously do.

That explains everything, it doesn't mean you're a nasty little man at all...just that you have a little man-crush on Venetia (Fair enough) and I apologise for not thinking she's the beez knees.

And a horse can only be called great if his offspring is great? Judging the man by the achievements of his kids.





I'll ignore the flaming that you obviously feel the need to defend yourself with when your foolish statements come home to roost and just answer your last attempt at a sarcastic question which is actually surprisingly quite valid.

I reckon that most people who have really studied racing would say that Northern Dancer was the greatest racehorse of all time if asked to name one horse.

This would be as much for his exploits at stud where he is considered in a class of his own as his bloodlines continue to flourish and  produce champions several generations on, as for his record as a racehorse and winning the triple-crown in the USA.

There have been several triple-crown winners in the last fifty years but none has been anything remotely like as sucessful at stud and their names are all but forgotten although their bare  racetrack statistics would suggest that there would not be much between them .
Northern Dancer, the one ranked nr43 on this list?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood-Horse_magazine_List_of_Top_100_Racehorses_of_the_20th_Century

You can't judge horses by their progeny..George Washington was quite clearly a superb racehorse but never produced any offspring. That does not mean he wasn't a great racehorse..just that he wasn't a great Sire. The two things are not the same...not even close.
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2009, 01:13:00 PM »

Advantage boldie ...

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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2009, 01:15:03 PM »

Seriously though .... Greatest footballer, cricketer, race horse ... its all subjective isn't it ?

Different training methods, more knowledge of diet supplements etc etc ... surely it is impossible to know for sure ?
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2009, 01:22:04 PM »

Seriously though .... Greatest footballer, cricketer, race horse ... its all subjective isn't it ?

Different training methods, more knowledge of diet supplements etc etc ... surely it is impossible to know for sure ?

Not for some people, for them it's a FACT!
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2009, 01:46:29 PM »

 
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2009, 02:27:02 PM »

Advantage boldie ...



fck off, loses points for quoting wikipedia imo

it's not subjective, the IS a horse out there that is the greatest flat horse of all time, FACT, i'm not saying who that is but there is one.
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2009, 03:43:25 PM »

ah..so every snotty comment you have made since the staking thing started, and that's just about every comment you made in reply to a post of mine in that period, was because I made a mistake by associating Venetia Williams with Best Mate (obv a mistake) and because I don't rate her as a trainer and you obviously do.

That explains everything, it doesn't mean you're a nasty little man at all...just that you have a little man-crush on Venetia (Fair enough) and I apologise for not thinking she's the beez knees.

And a horse can only be called great if his offspring is great? Judging the man by the achievements of his kids.





I'll ignore the flaming that you obviously feel the need to defend yourself with when your foolish statements come home to roost and just answer your last attempt at a sarcastic question which is actually surprisingly quite valid.

I reckon that most people who have really studied racing would say that Northern Dancer was the greatest racehorse of all time if asked to name one horse.

This would be as much for his exploits at stud where he is considered in a class of his own as his bloodlines continue to flourish and  produce champions several generations on, as for his record as a racehorse and winning the triple-crown in the USA.

There have been several triple-crown winners in the last fifty years but none has been anything remotely like as sucessful at stud and their names are all but forgotten although their bare  racetrack statistics would suggest that there would not be much between them .
Northern Dancer, the one ranked nr43 on this list?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood-Horse_magazine_List_of_Top_100_Racehorses_of_the_20th_Century

You can't judge horses by their progeny..George Washington was quite clearly a superb racehorse but never produced any offspring. That does not mean he wasn't a great racehorse..just that he wasn't a great Sire. The two things are not the same...not even close.

This illustrates my point perfectly:

A horse rated #43 by wiki. would be considered the best of the modern era by many knowledgable people.
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2009, 03:52:51 PM »

Advantage boldie ...



You must be very proud of yourself Kev.

There was no "feud" between boldie and myself before you started shit-stirring on boldie's staking thread with a flaming post directed at me around six months ago and which set a precedent for all future discussions.
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2009, 04:04:58 PM »

Advantage boldie ...



You must be very proud of yourself Kev.

There was no "feud" between boldie and myself before you started shit-stirring on boldie's staking thread with a flaming post directed at me around six months ago and which set a precedent for all future discussions.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee advantage ME then Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2009, 05:06:48 PM »


Weeeeeeeeeeeeee advantage ME then Cheesy
And disadvantage everyone else.
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2009, 05:29:57 PM »

Jesus this is so ridiculous it's funny. Just get your dicks out and see whose is the longest andget it over with ffs
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