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« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2009, 03:03:13 PM »


Then i quite possibly fold the turn... I have to bet the flop to see where I stand...

So OP did bet the flop - and obviously didn't find out where he stood.  What skills should he (and me for that matter) develop?  

You should both develop the skill to check imo.

OP should also develop the skill to drink his JD without having to dilute it with panda pops.

Aye very good boulder brain but do you call the river?

Yes.

I think I pass the river.

That's cus you're a homo.

Shutup boulder brain.

I sure hope that sticks.

As played it may well be a pass but I don't think I can. Obviously I'm not good enough to lay down an over pair.

I would've played the hand very differently though to keep the pot under control if possible.

Maybe that's the habit you get in to when you hate folding? Keep the pot small so you don't have to.

A player who doesn't mind passing can happily bluff at it on the flop when they know they'll be able to lay down when they get a bit of a fight back.
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« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2009, 03:20:06 PM »

I always wondered what boldie was short for...
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« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2009, 03:32:12 PM »

I always wondered what boldie was short for...

I don't get it but not you and him arguing again pls.....!
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« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2009, 03:33:27 PM »

Where do we keep the pot smaller and also get value from what should be the winning hand on most occasions?

If you check the flop surely you are betting the turn? And on this occasion you would have faced a similar decision on the river.

The way I played it I felt I had to call the river as I had checked behind on turn to hope he value bets/bluffs to me or will check call another bet. I had him on a very small range mainly due to the swift manner of his call, he didn’t consider re-raising or folding and I didn’t think he would be calling with AJ/KJ/QJ oop. So thought his likely holding was med PP poss AK/AQ. So by the end I don’t think it is any AK/AQ and have him down to pairs up to TT (discounting quads obv) probably could get 22-44 out of equation as he may have taken a second before calling but this was instant (he may have had a look prior but sure he looked after I acted)

So I am beating 88,99.TT and a bluff but does he bet pot with them or wouldn’t his line more likely be check call? Anyway called as I had already decided that I was prior to the bet, didn’t expect it to be just as big, and he had 66, should have stayed in the pub longer and missed that level too imo  Cheesy
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« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2009, 03:39:13 PM »

he binked - unlucky

can't see me folding the way i played it out
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« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2009, 04:34:04 PM »

Ye Gads man seems v nitty to me to fold the river if the turn has gone check check.

Whether you check behind the flop or check behind the turn you end up losing about the same when you're behind, and winning two streets of value when you're ahead.

With QQ here you have to assume that you're ahead the majority of the time, and therefore you're playing your hand carefully for value and a little protection, but you're prepared to muck if he shows a lot of strength.

I prefer betting the flop and checking behind the turn because I think that under-represents my hand and lets me make a big value bet on the river if he checks.

The trouble with checking the flop then betting turn is that yr turn bet is leveraged, i.e. he has to call that knowing that he has to go to the river and perhaps face another big bet there.
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« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2009, 04:49:36 PM »

Boulder Brain

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