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« Reply #90 on: March 05, 2010, 09:41:02 PM »

I guess my problem with this most of this thread seems a little frothy.

This isn't a coin flip with 20p if you get tails and £20 if you get heads. 

A better anology is putting someone in the WSOP main event.  Most of the time you'll end up with zero (or maybe close to zero).  One time in ten or maybe 1 in 5 if you back well, you'll get something, but much of the time it may not be much.  Only a small proportion of the time will you be flying out to Vegas in November with your pockets full to bursting.  If I was to buy companies like this, you'd be better buying a basket, and not doing the all the eggs in one basket thing.  For instance I own shares in Shell, BP, Soco and Aminex.  The latter two holdings are my riskier oil companies and I hold smaller proportions of them than I do in BP and Shell.  To use another bad poker analogy I guess I am doing the equivalent of playing $1/$2 with my $10K, rather than going for the big spin up.   I have no problem with spin ups, so long as the person doing it knows they are spinning up ofc.

As an aside, the chance of a succesful drill at Liz well is 17% on the research that I assume Desire paid for and not the 50% recently claimed.  http://www.desireplc.co.uk/pdfs/Desire_CPR_Final_Report.pdf.  It is on page 2.  And that 17% isn't the chance of getting a monster field, it is the chance of getting one barely commerical.

And I am not entirely convinced that 17% is a low estimate.  You don't usually pay people to come up with bad stories for your company.

And you can be pretty sure they think this is their best prospect.  It has the highest chance of success and an expected decent size if succesful..

And if I ever call somebody a deramper or post that any company I own has a low price bcause of "shorters" you can shoot me. 

Anyway best not carry this on too long, I don't want to turn up at a GUKPT and have a bunch of angry poker players giving me a load of grief because they missed out on the chance to make £200K.  And that is always a possibility, albeit probably a small one.  And I used to waste too much of my life on internet share boards and I don't want to start that again!
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« Reply #91 on: March 05, 2010, 10:39:29 PM »

I think that may be fair.
I've never been involved in shares before so i was looking at this as a potential spin up. It's around a 4/1 shot and if successful from what i've read i don't think £7 a share is unrealistic so it's paying 6/1.
If it doesn't work out - never mind we move on.
If it does it gives me some funds to invest in other companies and try and build up from their.
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« Reply #92 on: March 06, 2010, 10:51:34 AM »

I'm invested in this and i know it's a risk. It's just deciding whether the reward is worth the risk and i decided it was for me.
Not gonna get rid now.

Rewards are DEFINITELY worth the risk on this one!!!!

In that case, I'll remortgage my house and buy a load. Sounds great. THANKS!

Or maybe not.
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« Reply #93 on: March 06, 2010, 12:18:26 PM »

I don't wish to shatter anyones illusions and this may prove to be a very good stock but it has the look of a stock which has been way overbought on hearsay and gossip.  There is little doubt that there issome oil in the Falklands but there needs to be more than merely some oil there for this stock to take off.  There needs to be a huge amount there for it to be viable.  The market is very good at understanding risks like this and I would say thatthe chances of them finding a commercially viable well are probably priced correctly.  Comments such as"and the share price is being held back by shorters and the Argie situation unfortunately" are a bit misleading in my view.  The share price isn't being held back by these.....they are very legitimate concerns.  If there is any kind of millitary dispute down there these shares are worth preety much zero.  This is also the case if there is a political solution.  As for shorters they are, generally smarter than those that go long....thye have to be and if any company (especially small companies) that you hold a position in are targeted by them then it is normally worth taking a long, hard look at your position.
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« Reply #94 on: March 06, 2010, 01:47:49 PM »

I love this thread.

I am now the majority shareholder of Desire.
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« Reply #95 on: March 08, 2010, 02:10:35 AM »

I love this thread.

I am now the majority shareholder of Desire.

love the bit about shorters are far smarter that those that go long....thats the best statement yet, thats like me saying im the best poker player in the world. On my day I could win the WSOP but i generally wouldnt because im no good...!! bad statement that!!
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« Reply #96 on: March 11, 2010, 09:55:43 AM »

Not sure I see the relevance of your point about bad poker players winning world series.  Shorters have to be smarter to make the same amount of money than those that go long because they have to worik against an inbuilt tendency of markets to go up so if a market goes up say 1% a year on average then to make 10% per annum they have to make 11% against the general market consensus.  Long investors only have to make 9% agfainst the general market....It is like the difference between being a punter and bookmaker.
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« Reply #97 on: March 11, 2010, 01:49:41 PM »


Dessie is getting a good caning at the moment.
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« Reply #98 on: March 12, 2010, 05:20:21 PM »


Dessie is getting a good caning at the moment.
Yeh, a little bit however there is no reason for the share price to move up atm, the price already has in it the argie situation, drilling with no assests etc,  so it should stay like this until around the 22nd march when the results of drill are released. Then its boom or short fall, I say boom or short fall because if there is oil then bang the price flies, if no oil in this well then there is 11 more to drill yet in an area of the 2nd source rock in the world!! chances of finding no oil at all are pretty slim unlike my mate Randy.

If there daily shares traded starts to increase and there is a big movement upwards or downwards (big not 3-4p) then you know news has leaked and follow the trades!!

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« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2010, 06:51:44 PM »

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE62R0WD20100328

Looks like the SP could be in for a pretty heavy drop tomorrow.
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« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2010, 09:13:25 AM »

sighhhhhhs
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« Reply #101 on: March 29, 2010, 12:03:22 PM »

DES   Desire Petroleum plc   50.00   -50.00   -50.00%

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« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2010, 12:08:19 PM »

nOtGoOdAmEnTs.
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« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2010, 12:38:58 PM »

Japes
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« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2010, 12:42:09 PM »

not good news.


who is gonna top up because the price is soooo cheap?
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