collusion ?

[geordieneil]

The rule that prohibits checking the nuts on the river last to act is a silly and illogical rule. Checking the nuts on the river does not have to be collusion. I explained it in this thread: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=47604.30

Looking at it from a different angle, I can see why you were annoyed by what happened; especially as you bubbled, and especially as the guy was clearly checking so as not to take chips from his friend. So it was collusion by the letter of the law. However, it's not like it was some master plan by the two of them to fleece the table through their cunning underhand ways. It really was just one mate not wanting to take chips off another mate. Nothing sinister. Now obviously those who take poker real serious will still be outraged by this since it definitely breaks the rules. But the two guys involved in this 'collusion' almost certainly don't take poker too seriously, are just playing for a laugh with the lads, and will be totally confused and bemused if they get into trouble. The question is, would you sooner guys like this continued to come play in your tourney, or would you prefer to drive them away? If you drive them away then everything will be done properly, with no grey areas and the rules rigorously enforced and followed to the letter. But you'll find that your games are not as fun (or profitable) any more since the only players who are left will be those who take poker oh so seriously. And they will all be wearing ipods.

'Serious' poker players would be doing themselves and everyone else a favour if they stopped pulling up beginners/recreational players on technicalities such as string betting, supposed collusion etc. If the offender knows exactly what he is doing and is doing it deliberately to gain an advantage, then fine - call the floor. Otherwise, let it go. Stop driving the recreational players away by being a stickler for the rules!

poker/ipods seriously, should not be allowed in the same sentence. these are the ones i don't take seriously, ipod with sunglasses if he's got a hoodie and a full tilt cap too, bingo the full set and i found my fish

[pleno1]

The rule that prohibits checking the nuts on the river last to act is a silly and illogical rule. Checking the nuts on the river does not have to be collusion. I explained it in this thread: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=47604.30

Looking at it from a different angle, I can see why you were annoyed by what happened; especially as you bubbled, and especially as the guy was clearly checking so as not to take chips from his friend. So it was collusion by the letter of the law. However, it's not like it was some master plan by the two of them to fleece the table through their cunning underhand ways. It really was just one mate not wanting to take chips off another mate. Nothing sinister. Now obviously those who take poker real serious will still be outraged by this since it definitely breaks the rules. But the two guys involved in this 'collusion' almost certainly don't take poker too seriously, are just playing for a laugh with the lads, and will be totally confused and bemused if they get into trouble. The question is, would you sooner guys like this continued to come play in your tourney, or would you prefer to drive them away? If you drive them away then everything will be done properly, with no grey areas and the rules rigorously enforced and followed to the letter. But you'll find that your games are not as fun (or profitable) any more since the only players who are left will be those who take poker oh so seriously. And they will all be wearing ipods.

'Serious' poker players would be doing themselves and everyone else a favour if they stopped pulling up beginners/recreational players on technicalities such as string betting, supposed collusion etc. If the offender knows exactly what he is doing and is doing it deliberately to gain an advantage, then fine - call the floor. Otherwise, let it go. Stop driving the recreational players away by being a stickler for the rules!

poker/ipods seriously, should not be allowed in the same sentence. these are the ones i don't take seriously, ipod with sunglasses if he's got a hoodie and a full tilt cap too, bingo the full set and i found my fish

I'd take 4 lads in full tilt hoodies over any 4 people over 50 in a tournament.