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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2011, 12:42:11 PM »

mmmmmmm

I dont rele like the UTG play as a bluff tbh, you're not really repping anything,  maybe

but when he c/r the flop he him self is quite polarised to Tx (poss some nut spade combo's) so if you think he is bluffing enough Im much happier to just call down with  high rather than jam - as he should never ever be turning a better Ahigh or a small pair into a bluff as he has such a great bluff catcher himself

once he's c/r and then chked the turn I think ou could bet fold there for sure.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2011, 12:43:16 PM »

take back the turn bet - fold re-read OP and ur not deep enough
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 01:45:43 PM »

What turn bet?
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2011, 01:52:35 PM »

Rage at this stage I was opening any 2 any position, mp awop guy was about only one playing back at me, most of the table were not putting a chip in without a monster, so there was plenty of free chips out there reason I played flop as I did was I didn't think he could put 20+bb  after my 3 bet without a ten, couldn't believe I was ahead when cards were turned even more shocked pot was split
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2011, 02:02:48 PM »

they all have pocket ironsides
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2011, 02:54:58 PM »

What turn bet?

cliffs : I dont like raising the flop when we have a decent bluff catcher and rep nothing vs a polarised range. I would flat and call/chk the turn
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2011, 03:32:52 PM »

Rage at this stage I was opening any 2 any position, mp awop guy was about only one playing back at me, most of the table were not putting a chip in without a monster, so there was plenty of free chips out there reason I played flop as I did was I didn't think he could put 20+bb  after my 3 bet without a ten, couldn't believe I was ahead when cards were turned even more shocked pot was split
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This obv makes a big difference to how the hand is played.

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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2011, 03:50:49 PM »

Rage at this stage I was opening any 2 any position, mp awop guy was about only one playing back at me, most of the table were not putting a chip in without a monster, so there was plenty of free chips out there reason I played flop as I did was I didn't think he could put 20+bb  after my 3 bet without a ten, couldn't believe I was ahead when cards were turned even more shocked pot was split
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as described though is he ever c/r you without a TEN? what does he peel ur EP raise with a c/r on this flop, he never has an overpair, he never c/r a smaller pair (or at least i hope he doesnt lol) seems like it's either a bluff (which your ahead of) or he has a TEN.

The fact he has managed to spanner off with an Ahigh hand seems beyond terrible from him
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2011, 09:50:32 PM »

I like your play up until the point where you make the 3-bet on the flop (although it is supposed to get through). However in an APAT he usually has a 10 here mate. Pretty standard in APAT at this stage.

On my table we had a player raising a few times each round. Eventually made a button raise to 1K, the BB who had been folding to him all day played back for the first time and reraised to about 3K. So the button shoves with Q-Jos, with effective stacks of 12K the BB obviously has KK and doubles up.

3-Bet bluffs on the flop and 4-Bet bluffs pre don't work at this stage of an APAT.

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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 10:00:00 PM »

I like your play up until the point where you make the 3-bet on the flop (although it is supposed to get through). However in an APAT he usually has a 10 here mate. Pretty standard in APAT at this stage.

On my table we had a player raising a few times each round. Eventually made a button raise to 1K, the BB who had been folding to him all day played back for the first time and reraised to about 3K. So the button shoves with Q-Jos, with effective stacks of 12K the BB obviously has KK and doubles up.

3-Bet bluffs on the flop and 4-Bet bluffs pre don't work at any stage of an APAT.



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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2011, 10:31:01 PM »

Ok mp wakes up with a4o, should my 3b of gotten through? I was bluffing with a6o

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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2011, 10:50:03 PM »

Ok mp wakes up with a4o, should my 3b of gotten through? I was bluffing with a6o

fold pre

I still dont see why we need to bluff with A high when oppo is polarised to TEN/NO TEN
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2011, 02:57:15 PM »

Ok mp wakes up with a4o, should my 3b of gotten through? I was bluffing with a6o

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I still dont see why we need to bluff with A high when oppo is polarised to TEN/NO TEN


two reasons

1) i was a little tipsy
2) i knew he didnt have a ten and thought it would get through

i was sick when he shoved thought he had to have the t
was esactic when i thought we were chopping was over the moon with the K turn 3 river to scoop
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2011, 09:01:34 PM »


1) i was a little tipsy
2) i knew he didnt have a ten and thought it would get through


well that answers the question haha
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2011, 11:46:11 PM »


1) i was a little tipsy
2) i knew he didnt have a ten and thought it would get through


well that answers the question haha

i am known to make bluffs when i spot weakness when sober though
i still cant beleive he put in 23bbs at the end knowing i had to call for 6 bigs
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