How often are you willing to get it all-in pre flop with A,K?

[smashedagain]

Wow. I nearly bit n posted then. Reckon it's not in pha coz you knew I'd have ignored it. Deepstack next week and last time I commented on it only being ace high, AK hurt me in so many hands on the final simon won it proved my point.

[JK]

Iv probably had as bad experiences as most with AK. Iv bubbled the DTD 150, 300 and lost a flip deep in the mini FTOPs main, all in 6 months (and I rarely play lol).

I wouldn't change my decision in any of these though. Every time I got it in based on opponents range, my perceived range and the odds I was getting. In short... What do we think the other guy has? Does he only ever have AA or KK? Or can we assign him a wider range, say 77+ and AJ+. What does he think I have? Will he fold small pairs if we shove? (always good to win chips non-showdown if your racing IMO). What odds are we getting? As Alex said, we've raised 10, it's 90 more to call into 110, so we're getting better than our hands odds vs  an average range.

You have to work out a few factors instead of just jamming it in because it's AK like alot of people do. It's alot like JJ, if you can work out when to get it in and when to fold, you won't love/hate

[the sicilian]

Answer is multi-facet.. depends on stacks..opponents..level of the tournament etc...

dont play much cash si mine is a tourney answer...

Early in tournaments to a raise i prefer flatting with position..im not interested in building pots at this stage and its nicely disguised.....as the tournament goes on if im a big stack i tend to play it aggy v medium and short stacks and carefully against other big stacks..if im short or medium ill be aggressive.

ak is good late in tournaments with higher blinds as its showdown equity in alipf coups is high.... so AK is always played hard at this point

these are very basic lines and i said its very situational for me..but AK and AQ remain the most overplayed hands...

[smashedagain]

Answer is multi-facet.. depends on stacks..opponents..level of the tournament etc...

dont play much cash si mine is a tourney answer...

Early in tournaments to a raise i prefer flatting with position..im not interested in building pots at this stage and its nicely disguised.....as the tournament goes on if im a big stack i tend to play it aggy v medium and short stacks and carefully against other big stacks..if im short or medium ill be aggressive.

ak is good late in tournaments with higher blinds as its showdown equity in alipf coups is high.... so AK is always played hard at this point

these are very basic lines and i said its very situational for me..but AK and AQ remain the most overplayed hands...

i like this tbh

[GreekStein]

Haven't read the thread but I loooove ace king, and ace queen for that matter.

Can't wait to get them in at any available opportunity.

[smashedagain]

Haven't read the thread but I loooove pearly kings, and any queens for that matter.

Can't wait to get  in to them at any available opportunity.

fyp

[SuuPRlim]

A big mistake inexperienced players make is confusing Immeadiate hand value with actual hand strength. A hand that is "ace high" could be a stronger hand than a hand that is "a pair of tens"

just like when sometimes a set is  bad hand, lik 5's on a   board

"taking a flip" is a hard one to quantify because we dont know for sure the other guy has a pair. If his range is for example TT+ and AQs+ then yh we've got like 45% vs that range - and you might decide for whatever reason not to take such a marginal spot, maybe its early and you don't want the variance, or you're a big stack against another big stack with some ICM considerations then that might make you wanna reject a pretty high variance spot - even though with the blinds, the raises already in you'd be showing a lot of profit getting the money in there with 45% vs the range.......

 start to throw some 77-99 and some AQo/AJs/KQs in there and all of a sudden we're in such strong shape vs his range that folding or not going all in when the equity is there right then becomes a very large mistake

[MC]

tl;dr

completely new member, asking sensible questions

and that response is going to encourage the new member to post again James?

Fair point. Apologies.

The thing is I think it's pointless discussing such a vague and generic questions like this/these. It is always going to be situation dependant, so there's little merit to giving a long thought out answer.

[FUN4FRASER]

In the latter stages  of a tournament I seldom lay AK down (depends on the action and from whom )...but then again..Im a Station !!

[SuuPRlim]

In the latter stages  of a tournament I seldom lay AK down (depends on the action and from whom )...but then again..Im a Station !!

nice when people 3b fold it to you 4handed tho

what a toasty life

[smashedagain]

In the latter stages  of a tournament I seldom lay AK down (depends on the action and from whom )...but then again..Im a Station !!

but thank god shaun king can tho aye buddy
oh dave you tosser

[FUN4FRASER]

Now Now Boys...thats gone  ... Shaun has talked to me about the subject and its all cool and put to bed.

Sleeping dogs and all that   !

[swansfc]

i play AK like aces or kings, i think your going to struggle to make a big stack if you don't play these hands and take flips to win tournaments. im not the best cash game player because i try to play cash like i do tournaments and it doesn't work. fist pump shoving ak every time

[Ironside]

i play AK like aces or kings, i think your going to struggle to make a big stack if you don't play these hands and take flips to win tournaments. im not the best cash game player because i try to play cash like i do tournaments and it doesn't work. fist pump shoving ak every time

bet you dont first hand in a a 10k buy in comp with 200xbb+ starting stack when you 5 bet and get 6 bet you know your AK is no good

[swansfc]

i play AK like aces or kings, i think your going to struggle to make a big stack if you don't play these hands and take flips to win tournaments. im not the best cash game player because i try to play cash like i do tournaments and it doesn't work. fist pump shoving ak every time

bet you dont first hand in a a 10k buy in comp with 200xbb+ starting stack when you 5 bet and get 6 bet you know your AK is no good

stop and go the flop ldo