Nein to Nine Nine?

[outragous76]

my calculator sais we're 38% fwiw

using what ranges

[Ironside]

my calculator sais we're 38% fwiw

Getting around 2-1 for a 6/4 shot I am still edging on trying for the win and shoving

[outragous76]

wow - yeah maybe its not terrible!

Im still folding but the numbers look close (widish ranges)

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  22,069,139,400  games    23.568 secs   936,402,724  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    36.799%     36.32%    00.48%        8015938574    105358556.67   { 9h9s }
Hand 1:    26.906%     25.82%    01.09%        5698298260    239635187.67   { JJ-22, ATs+, ATo+ }
Hand 2:    36.295%     35.21%    01.09%        7769632306    240276515.67   { 77+, ATs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, ATo+, KQo, QJo, JTo }

[Ironside]

A lot of live players see any pair and call as they know they are beating AK, so I would remove jto hands but factor 22+

[Solaris]

wow - yeah maybe its not terrible!

Im still folding but the numbers look close (widish ranges)

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  22,069,139,400  games    23.568 secs   936,402,724  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    36.799%     36.32%    00.48%        8015938574    105358556.67   { 9h9s }
Hand 1:    26.906%     25.82%    01.09%        5698298260    239635187.67   { JJ-22, ATs+, ATo+ }
Hand 2:    36.295%     35.21%    01.09%        7769632306    240276515.67   { 77+, ATs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, ATo+, KQo, QJo, JTo }

Factor in ICM and it's a fold with these numbers, also, I know Tightend said complete newb but JTos?

100% agree. I don't even think it's that close. Just fold and look for the next spot.

Definitely think you've given him too wide a range in that hand outrageous.

[MC]

Sigh, deleted post but got quoted

Wanted to ask Guy who was Hand 1 and who was Hand 2, thought I might have got it the wrong way round

[pleno1]

wtf? obv guy meant the last guy  was the guy jamming, hero was guy 1 and 2nd guy was sb?

[smashedagain]

Nines never lose.

way hay...thats gotta be the best book/session ever.....i heard you say as soon as you get KK the first thing you think is someones got AA or they are gonna crack you. love the positive mental attitude now george

[outragous76]

obv should have clarified

Tighty has 99 (didnt think that needed clarifying)

Original raiser/shover has all pairs and AT+

caller (very much based on tightys description) has 77+ and I included all connected broadways incl JT as they "look pretty"

[outragous76]

What makes this interesting is the small blind is a complete newbie and makes lots of unorthodox calls (rarely raises)

re my range

[MC]

wtf? obv guy meant the last guy  was the guy jamming, hero was guy 1 and 2nd guy was sb?

Seemed the most likely but the ranges for SB could potentially have been either Guy 1 or Guy 2

[pokerfan]

What makes this interesting is the small blind is a complete newbie and makes lots of unorthodox calls (rarely raises)

re my range

Much wider i think Guy, 99 is a call here for me.

[Ironside]

10 bigs with an ante 6 handed are we putting UTG shove at 22-JJ ATo+ ATs+

i am sure alot of players on this forum are shoving much wider it seems very nitty

as we dont know when we will next get a chance to open shove to steal with equity if called

[outragous76]

10 bigs with an ante 6 handed are we putting UTG shove at 22-JJ ATo+ ATs+

i am sure alot of players on this forum are shoving much wider it seems very nitty

as we dont know when we will next get a chance to open shove to steal with equity if called

wider is immaterial as it will only improve tightys equity in the spot

[Solaris]

10 bigs with an ante 6 handed are we putting UTG shove at 22-JJ ATo+ ATs+

i am sure alot of players on this forum are shoving much wider it seems very nitty

as we dont know when we will next get a chance to open shove to steal with equity if called

This is a live donkament, peoples shoving ranges are much tighter than you seem to think.