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« Reply #5985 on: December 22, 2021, 11:46:20 AM »

Think this could have big implications

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/21/freddy-tylicki-wins-high-court-case-against-graham-gibbons-for-negligent-riding-horse-racing

Freddy Tylicki has won his high‑court claim against Graham Gibbons for negligent riding which resulted in a fall that left his fellow jockey with life-changing injuries.

I think that DQs and bans for not keeping a horse straight will probably have to become more common.


My first thought was this will have big implications, and was a bit unsure about if it was correct.

I then read the judgement yesterday, and don't think it will have big implications and can now see why it was correct.  It is well argued and explains why this case is unusual and why it shouldn't have big implications.  Worth a read for anyone interested in horse racing and the implications for professional sport.

https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/tylicki-v-gibbons/

I think it should lead to more findings of dangerous riding and some longer steward's inquiries.

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« Reply #5986 on: December 22, 2021, 03:22:44 PM »


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In making that finding, I stress that the threshold of liability for negligence is a high
one and has been determined as made out in this case, on its own particular facts. The
finding does not set a precedent either within horse-racing or in sport generally

hmmm seems like a "don't bother appealing" statement directed at presumably Gibbons' insurers. 

The problem is that the current rules allow a horse to keep a race, if it interferes with other horses, unless one of those horses is in close contention.  That means that avoiding interference is a lesser consideration to getting into contention in many jockeys' scale of priorities.  I can't see the BHA ignoring that when considering the judgement.
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« Reply #5987 on: December 22, 2021, 03:24:20 PM »

This is lovely:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTpNTK4vC0

Sorry if I messed up the link, it’s been a while.
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« Reply #5988 on: December 22, 2021, 06:31:21 PM »

The judgement was a fascinating read. For those that don’t want to read the whole thing, Gibbons was found guilty by dint of his persistent refusal to give ground to Tylicki’s mount, there being an initial contact prior to the second, catastrophic contact.

This hasn’t been a good year for the sport. Let’s hope that 2022 will see some improvement....
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« Reply #5989 on: January 07, 2022, 07:26:13 PM »

Monsieur Lecoq(or "Lecoe" as EdC prefers to pronounce it)looks to have a very decent chance in tomorrow's 1.50pm at a working-man's price.

Has winning form on soft going, races off a mark 18lbs below its one of two seasons ago and just turned 8yo.

What's not to like about double-figure prices.
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« Reply #5990 on: January 08, 2022, 04:39:32 PM »

Ran an absolute stinker of a race.

The extreme underfoot conditions didn't help.
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