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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2011, 01:00:51 PM »

like pre, unsure re. flop without reads, honestly think its probs gonna do money long-term.

turn lead is funky, reasoning?

river i think bigger is the way to go for sure, esp w image.

I led the turn thinking he was likely to check back this card a really high %age of the time. And if he does bet, I'm not really comfortable craising then shoving the river as the majority of his range that bets the turn will be flushes IMO. I thought he was the type to check back an overpair on this turn and even if he does bet it, he may find a fold to the craise, or if not, to the river shove. Other value lines that involve checking the turn don't seem great either. Check call then bomb brick rivers? C/c c/j? C/c c/c?

I just thought it was the best line vs this guy to get paid off and also cheapest way to define his range. What do you think?
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 01:06:21 PM »

Before I make a twat of myself what are people interpreting his card checking as on the flop and then on the turn?
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 01:40:09 PM »

Before I make a twat of myself what are people interpreting his card checking as on the flop and then on the turn?

At the time, I genuinely thought he was checking his cards on the flop because he'd forgotten what he had. He raised first to go and it had taken a while to complete the betting round.

On the turn it seemed a classic do I have a club check.
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 02:11:44 PM »

Before I make a twat of myself what are people interpreting his card checking as on the flop and then on the turn?

At the time, I genuinely thought he was checking his cards on the flop because he'd forgotten what he had. He raised first to go and it had taken a while to complete the betting round.

On the turn it seemed a classic do I have a club check.

This may be a little old school and possibly very wrong as I believe a lot of 'live' tells are pretty dodgy, but i thought,

First check he is probably checking for clubs
When he checks again on the turn he is checking with the little thought 'oh shit, ive got a flush running though his head'?

Open to being very wrong on this, but the fact you mentioned it obviously meant you thought it was significant.
Also open to the fact eveyone will be checking there cards a lot when we next share a table.
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 05:09:33 PM »

Before I make a twat of myself what are people interpreting his card checking as on the flop and then on the turn?

At the time, I genuinely thought he was checking his cards on the flop because he'd forgotten what he had. He raised first to go and it had taken a while to complete the betting round.

On the turn it seemed a classic do I have a club check.

This may be a little old school and possibly very wrong as I believe a lot of 'live' tells are pretty dodgy, but i thought,

First check he is probably checking for clubs
When he checks again on the turn he is checking with the little thought 'oh shit, ive got a flush running though his head'?

Open to being very wrong on this, but the fact you mentioned it obviously meant you thought it was significant.
Also open to the fact eveyone will be checking there cards a lot when we next share a table.

I agree with you about live tells being dodgy. The card checking one is fairly solid though and by far the most reliable live tell ever use. Good players obviously aren't really exploitable by this cos they'll be balanced. I know I conciously check my cards when i know I have a flush for instance, or not, or know I have a FD or airball to throw people off and mix it up.

This guy was definitely just on level one though and after he checked his cards on the turn I was pretty certain he was just checking for clubs.
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2011, 04:55:21 PM »

I check my cards after every street in live poker. pretty good habbit to get into imo
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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2011, 05:27:18 PM »

I check my cards after every street in live poker. pretty good habbit to get into imo

seriously?
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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2011, 05:29:27 PM »

I check my cards after every street in live poker. pretty good habbit to get into imo

seriously?


yh - i mean only if im seriously involved in a pot, if iv peeled 56 pre and wanted to chk fold I obv wouldnt look
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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2011, 05:38:50 PM »

I check my cards after every street in live poker. pretty good habbit to get into imo

seriously?


yh - i mean only if im seriously involved in a pot, if iv peeled 56 pre and wanted to chk fold I obv wouldnt look

lol sounds exploitable
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2011, 05:43:54 PM »

I check my cards after every street in live poker. pretty good habbit to get into imo

Such an online pro
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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2011, 05:46:18 PM »

Just keep whispering your hand to yourself through the hand, you can't forget it then!
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2011, 06:01:16 PM »

Was the villain wearing glasses and claiming to not speak much English?
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