Get off my Train

[edgascoigne]

Ticket or otherwise the behaviour of 'big man' is absolutely heinous.

We all want to get to where we are going on time when we travel, but any logical soul accepts the (admittedly frustrating) possibility of delays.

Here these delays are exacerbated by an incompetent ticket inspector, which some giant daft twot uses as an excuse to take out some pent up aggression under the guise of 'the public interest'.

He will get a fcuking in the courts for what effectively amounted to ABH, and rightly so.

To be fair I should add "and an objectionable youth"

[ManuelsMum]

Lol at the pic

So now we know what you really think. "Lol at the pic" of someone's injuries from being thrown face-down on the ground with force.

You think these injuries are funny?



Even if he hadn't paid [which he says he had], it wouldn't justify an assault. Some people seem to relish an excuse to have a go at anyone who is considered to have made any transgression. Regardless of how minor the offence, they seem to think they are justified in beating them up as if some spurious moral high-ground makes them immune to the law and gives them the opportunity to do things that they are usually restricted from. Quite rightly, it doesn't work likely that.

Also, the Inspector requested the attack and had a go himself at the end. They should both be prosecuted.

I have had worse shaving cuts. and my knees/shins look a million times worse every time i play football. He was thrown down as he kept fighting back to try and get back on the train he had no right to be on! Requested the attack? he asked him to be removed, he didn't say beat him up and jump up and down on his head.

at·tack (-tk)
v. at·tacked, at·tack·ing, at·tacks
v.tr.
1. To set upon with violent force.
2. To criticize strongly or in a hostile manner.


1. The big man was deliberate and forceful. I wouldn't say he was violent. He tried to usher him out of the carriage but the dodger kept trying to fight his way out of the man's clutches.
2. I would say the young man lead a verbal attack on the elderly fragile controller

I really hope the big fella doesn't get punished in any way. This would make an example that people can't just go around not buying tickets and gobbing off as they please.

1:41 Yeah that's not really violent, barely more than gingerly pressing him really. With extreme physical force. To the ground. I'm pretty sure I've seen that move on WWE somewhere.

[The_nun]

Let them all the nice people that come out with the same old excuses day in day out, pocket dance, hide in the toilets but yet seem to find enough cash to have on them a bottle of whiskey or white diamond etc travel free. Let them sit there laughing at us whilst calling me a fat ugly bitch and saying how they aint pay and no one is going to make me.
Let them sit there next to all the hardworking folk that have paid for season tickets to get to and from work. Why not after all us " ticket collectors " get no better thought of which ever way we choose on the day to handle it.

 I think someone mentioned just ask them to fill in an unpaid fares notice, yes just do that when you have just a few minutes between stops and most dodgers will give you false details anyway. The only ones that give correct details are the genuine ones. By the time one has done an address check on them they are off the train and long gone.

Fare dodgers are an everyday occurrence, you just get used to them as as you can see from this thread which ever way one chooses to deal with them there will always be someone that disagrees.

I am not justifying the way this was handled but then I wasn't there and I feel sure that the person filming this has not got it from the off, ie the incident had most likely been going on for some time before they decided to turn on their cam.

[paulhouk03]

Train wankers

[The_nun]

We go on training days where we are taught how to communicate with troublesome customers. These training days used to be taught by police and showed us self defense,  however now we get guided by what can only be described as actors, role playing and learning us to understand these people, how to talk to them. Basically we now have a no hands on policy. It's a shame that the guy who decided to masturbate on my early morning train didn't, or the lad that spat on me cause he didn't want to pay, or the man that said he had a gun his his back pack or the guy walking up n down the train with a Stanley blade. The joys of a working life.

[millidonk]

We go on training days where we are taught how to communicate with troublesome customers. These training days used to be taught by police and showed us self defense,  however now we get guided by what can only be described as actors, role playing and learning us to understand these people, how to talk to them. Basically we now have a no hands on policy. It's a shame that the guy who decided to masturbate on my early morning train didn't, or the lad that spat on me cause he didn't want to pay, or the man that said he had a gun his his back pack or the guy walking up n down the train with a Stanley blade. The joys of a working life.

Exactly! all these people who say he should be banged up, when is it ok for a member of the public to step in and forcefully escort someone off the train? Their answer: When it is too late!!

[Linux]

I remember when chiprich didnt have any cash to pay for york to leeds. Myself, Brent and Jones though it would be funny to try see him sneak on, he got caught and ordered off the train 4 miles out from Leeds. He had to walk the rest

[byronkincaid]

how come underground and bus RPI's in london get paid more than those on the trains?



Buses - There are 285 RPIs employed on London's bus service. Their basic
salary is £32,278.

LU - There are 234 Revenue Control Inspectors on the London Underground
service with a basic salary of £36,871

London Overground - There are 21 Inspectors and 3 Team Leader Inspectors
employed on the London Overground's services earning £22k and £24k
respectively.

[nirvana]

I always thought ticket inspectors were just really a deterrent. ie we know they might come so we're more likely to buy a ticket.

Didn't know they were expected to get into confrontations to collect money from people. It's like bank tellers being told to put up resistance to robbers - pretty silly.

The fat man would get some credit from me if he was protecting people being hurt - he wasn't, ergo psychopath - hope the judge thinks that too.

[millidonk]

The guy who actually filmed the footage said the dialogue was going on for 5 mins before he started recording, he said at first he felt sorry for the lad and was going to pay the fare for him, but then the lad turned abusive and his language was appalling so he decided to film him instead.

[ManuelsMum]

Don't think he was really behaving like a fare-dodger just nonsensically refusing to pay for a ticket like he knew he ought to

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16177963

He knows he's going to court, unlikely to be lying about details that he'll have to support there.

[The_nun]

I wouldn't imagine Ticket Inspectors are encouraged by any company to get into confrontation but then I don't know as I am not one.

I personally do get sick of having the piss taken out of me continuously day in day out same old excuses etc, some days it is easier to just shrug and walk away than others. Sometimes it's just that sneer that can wind one up, other times I can just walk away.

I don't think bank tellers have to deal with robbers on a daily basis though so hard to relate the two in my opinion.

[Geo the Sarge]

Friday:

Young guy possibly tries it on, big guy bungs him off the train, train proceeds to next destination.

Young guy obviously makes other arrangements and gets home (albeit a wee bit sore)

No complaint made, harsh lesson learnt and life goes on...........................

But it's 2011

Tuesday:

Video of the incident appears on youtube, young guy now embarrassed, makes complaint in an attempt to combat embarrassment and possibly make a claim. Big guy faces court..............................

Or am I just being cynical??

Geo

[outragous76]

Friday:

Young guy possibly tries it on, big guy bungs him off the train, train proceeds to next destination.

Young guy obviously makes other arrangements and gets home (albeit a wee bit sore)

No complaint made, harsh lesson learnt and life goes on...........................

But it's 2011

Tuesday:

Video of the incident appears on youtube, young guy now embarrassed, makes complaint in an attempt to combat embarrassment and possibly make a claim. Big guy faces court..............................

Or am I just being cynical??

Geo

I have stayed out of this thread - but if i was in the kids shoes facing prosecution id do what he has done - amazing how these things go away

no matter how you look at these things he has been assaulted and its on camera!

[Geo the Sarge]

Friday:

Young guy possibly tries it on, big guy bungs him off the train, train proceeds to next destination.

Young guy obviously makes other arrangements and gets home (albeit a wee bit sore)

No complaint made, harsh lesson learnt and life goes on...........................

But it's 2011

Tuesday:

Video of the incident appears on youtube, young guy now embarrassed, makes complaint in an attempt to combat embarrassment and possibly make a claim. Big guy faces court..............................

Or am I just being cynical??

Geo

I have stayed out of this thread - but if i was in the kids shoes facing prosecution id do what he has done - amazing how these things go away

no matter how you look at these things he has been assaulted and its on camera!

Where is it mentioned the kid was being prosecuted?

I haven't even said I condone what has happened, merely pointing out as you yourself have highlighted by the ! after camera, that in days gone by this would not have been on youtube and everyone would be carrying on with life.

Instead we get a thread, whilst full of justified comment, is also full of moronic references to bank robberies and murder.

Geo