Uhl be alright. A ladies event blog, by Vicky Coren

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Who writes these "laws" that mean they can't legally run a women only tournament?

If need be have an identical men only tournament on the same day. How can that be discriminating to anyone given the other 100 events are all open for anyone to enter?

Did you hold an identical men only tournament on the same day? No.

Did anyone else? No.

Could you force someone to? No.

I wasn't saying I had organised such a tournament or that anyone had, I was suggesting it as a solution

Is it discriminatory that men aren't allowed in women's toilets or visa versa?

No, because it's the same for both. It would be discriminatory if women were allowed in men's toilets but also had women only toilets.

Don't you agree?

I completely agree thus proving my solution of running an identical men only tournament at the same time would be a fair solution

There are seperate ladies and gents toilets everywhere. It would not be a solution to have a ladies only toilet and a sign saying 'Someone should provide a gent's toilet'.

Would you personally agree to run a parallel 'men only' tournament every time there's a ladies only one?

If not, will you make sure someone else does it?

If the answer to these questions is 'No' then it's not really a solution then is it?

[Graham C]

He deserved a little ribbing and if he could not muster at least a decent reponse to the question of the reasons for entering the ladies tourney then he got what was coming.  It's mildly amusing if a man dresses up, has a laugh, enjoys the friendly banter etc. but to be sullen, quiet and unfriendly good fuk him and everyone should continue to abuse
Him

I expect it's quite intimidating getting a little ribbing from someone as articulate as Vicky rather than your average person.

[RED-DOG]

He deserved a little ribbing and if he could not muster at least a decent reponse to the question of the reasons for entering the ladies tourney then he got what was coming.  It's mildly amusing if a man dresses up, has a laugh, enjoys the friendly banter etc. but to be sullen, quiet and unfriendly good fuk him and everyone should continue to abuse
Him

I expect it's quite intimidating getting a little ribbing from someone as articulate as Vicky rather than your average person.

I playing poker against her is quite intimidating too.

I know. I was that soldier.

[Dry em]

Who writes these "laws" that mean they can't legally run a women only tournament?

If need be have an identical men only tournament on the same day. How can that be discriminating to anyone given the other 100 events are all open for anyone to enter?

Did you hold an identical men only tournament on the same day? No.

Did anyone else? No.

Could you force someone to? No.

I wasn't saying I had organised such a tournament or that anyone had, I was suggesting it as a solution

Is it discriminatory that men aren't allowed in women's toilets or visa versa?

No, because it's the same for both. It would be discriminatory if women were allowed in men's toilets but also had women only toilets.

Don't you agree?

I completely agree thus proving my solution of running an identical men only tournament at the same time would be a fair solution

There are seperate ladies and gents toilets everywhere. It would not be a solution to have a ladies only toilet and a sign saying 'Someone should provide a gent's toilet'.

Would you personally agree to run a parallel 'men only' tournament every time there's a ladies only one?

If not, will you make sure someone else does it?

If the answer to these questions is 'No' then it's not really a solution then is it?

Without wanting to go around in circles (because I think you agreed with my principle of it being fair if the same thing is offered to both) I'm not suggesting any signs are put up or that it's a solution to world peace but in the specific case of the wsop ladies event I think it's a good solution.

I can't personally guarantee anything unfortunately, was just suggesting a solution which seems fair for the wsop to overcome this perennial problem

[RED-DOG]

Who writes these "laws" that mean they can't legally run a women only tournament?

If need be have an identical men only tournament on the same day. How can that be discriminating to anyone given the other 100 events are all open for anyone to enter?

Did you hold an identical men only tournament on the same day? No.

Did anyone else? No.

Could you force someone to? No.

I wasn't saying I had organised such a tournament or that anyone had, I was suggesting it as a solution

Is it discriminatory that men aren't allowed in women's toilets or visa versa?

No, because it's the same for both. It would be discriminatory if women were allowed in men's toilets but also had women only toilets.

Don't you agree?

I completely agree thus proving my solution of running an identical men only tournament at the same time would be a fair solution

There are seperate ladies and gents toilets everywhere. It would not be a solution to have a ladies only toilet and a sign saying 'Someone should provide a gent's toilet'.

Would you personally agree to run a parallel 'men only' tournament every time there's a ladies only one?

If not, will you make sure someone else does it?

If the answer to these questions is 'No' then it's not really a solution then is it?

Without wanting to go around in circles (because I think you agreed with my principle of it being fair if the same thing is offered to both) I'm not suggesting any signs are put up or that it's a solution to world peace but in the specific case of the wsop ladies event I think it's a good solution.

I can't personally guarantee anything unfortunately, was just suggesting a solution which seems fair for the wsop to overcome this perennial problem

When they run an identical parallel men only tournament, I will agree that, on those occasions, women only tournaments are fair.

[Cf]

Run a mens only tournament and womens only tournament in parallel.

Have the winners play heads up in a battle of the sexes match.

[Claw75]

toilet analogy is an odd one, but I'm gonna go with it.

busy event, lots of people in attendance.  it's open to all but let's say the population is about 90% male.  there's a long corridor where the toilets are located.  there's one male toilet (no queue), 10 unisex toilets (again, no queues to get in) and three female toilets, all of which have a lot of people waiting to use them.  Someone approaches one of the women in the queue to enquire why she doesn't just use one of the unisex toilets.  "thanks - but I'm more comfortable waiting to use this one".  A few guys start getting the hump about there being more female toilets than male toilets.  "It's not fair".  Some of them join the queue to use the women's toilets to "make a point".  Are they not acting in a slightly knobbish manner? Would they not expect to get a bit of ribbing from some of the more forthright women in attendance, when it is obvious that their intention to use the women's facilities is making some of the other women uncomfortable? Then there are cries for the women's toilets to be banned because they're "not fair".  Eventually it's agreed to shut down the women's toilet (and the solitary men's toilet) and only have unisex facilities.  Who has actually 'won'?

[MANTIS01]

Men entering something just for women is like a form of pollution. It's like a big tanker hitting the rocks off some beautiful desert island and dirty oil leaking out into the crystal blue waters. Sure, it isn't against the law for the tanker to be in the sea or to crash into the rocks but it is decidedly unpleasant nonetheless. I must admit that when I read Vicky put a pair of tights on at the table I felt like I wanted to enter. Just to sit there surrounded by women for hours, intoxicated by the perfume in the air, being 3bet and 4bet by ample chests everywhere. Oh my lord. But unfortunately I work on an oil tanker and it is dirty and it smells and our job is to sail past the beautiful island on our way to Grimsby or Hull.

If I did have the balls to enter a women's only event, fnar, I see myself as being charming and witty. Perhaps bringing some little gifts to hand around the table or indulge in chatter about Sex in the City. I think sitting down hooded up all sallow, moody and starting arguments is indicative of the life fail many young poker players are experiencing today. It's like arriving at the beautiful desert island and complaining about the heat or the flies.

[mondatoo]

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Well that's fine by me. I'm all for equality, but not when those same women fire fighters and soldiers can enter a poker tournament that is off limits to the men they work along side.

There's a principle here. Surely you can see that?

surely the principle is that men can enter these poker tournaments as the women they work with - but nearly all of them choose not to.

Can't you see the reason why they choose not to?

I can't ?

[kinboshi]

[RickBFA]

The guys who enter these tourneys just have no style and no class.

Entering just because you can is totally irrelevant.

[Racman]

Not sure he cashed, maybe he needs to find a softer game.

He cashed in 69 for $2359

Obviously not soft enough. Maybe he should try the Casino employees one next year

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The guys who enter these tourneys just have no style and no class.

Entering just because you can is totally irrelevant.

As is posting in this thread.

[RED-DOG]

toilet analogy is an odd one, but I'm gonna go with it.

busy event, lots of people in attendance.  it's open to all but let's say the population is about 90% male.  there's a long corridor where the toilets are located.  there's one male toilet (no queue), 10 unisex toilets (again, no queues to get in) and three female toilets, all of which have a lot of people waiting to use them.  Someone approaches one of the women in the queue to enquire why she doesn't just use one of the unisex toilets.  "thanks - but I'm more comfortable waiting to use this one".  A few guys start getting the hump about there being more female toilets than male toilets.  "It's not fair".  Some of them join the queue to use the women's toilets to "make a point".  Are they not acting in a slightly knobbish manner? Would they not expect to get a bit of ribbing from some of the more forthright women in attendance, when it is obvious that their intention to use the women's facilities is making some of the other women uncomfortable? Then there are cries for the women's toilets to be banned because they're "not fair".  Eventually it's agreed to shut down the women's toilet (and the solitary men's toilet) and only have unisex facilities.  Who has actually 'won'?

What is the situation were reversed?

[RED-DOG]

I'm going to retire from this thread now.


I hope I've made my position clear, and if we don't agree, I hope I haven't offended anyone.