Women bishops... Church says no

[MANTIS01]

Do we think God should abide by the law tho? This is God's law. And if I was God I would do as I please thanks. I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I want because I will never crash. But let's say I was drunk one night and did crash, well I could save all the victims with my resurrection skills and could repair any damage instantly. Sending God on a speed awareness course for going 40 in a 30 seems pretty anal to me.

[nirvana]

Do we think God should abide by the law tho? This is God's law. And if I was God I would do as I please thanks. I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I want because I will never crash. But let's say I was drunk one night and did crash, well I could save all the victims with my resurrection skills and could repair any damage instantly. Sending God on a speed awareness course for going 40 in a 30 seems pretty anal to me.

Definitely the most sense ever spoken on a Sicilian thread

[the sicilian]

Do we think God should abide by the law tho? This is God's law. And if I was God I would do as I please thanks. I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I want because I will never crash. But let's say I was drunk one night and did crash, well I could save all the victims with my resurrection skills and could repair any damage instantly. Sending God on a speed awareness course for going 40 in a 30 seems pretty anal to me.

Definitely the most sense ever spoken on a Sicilian thread

Lol... perfectly good topical thought provoking thread and you turn up ...

[nirvana]

Do we think God should abide by the law tho? This is God's law. And if I was God I would do as I please thanks. I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I want because I will never crash. But let's say I was drunk one night and did crash, well I could save all the victims with my resurrection skills and could repair any damage instantly. Sending God on a speed awareness course for going 40 in a 30 seems pretty anal to me.

Definitely the most sense ever spoken on a Sicilian thread

Lol... perfectly good topical thought provoking thread and you turn up ...

tbf, I swerved pretending I know anything about the topic except that female strippers should always be female imo

[bobAlike]

Do we think God should abide by the law tho? This is God's law. And if I was God I would do as I please thanks. I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I want because I will never crash. But let's say I was drunk one night and did crash, well I could save all the victims with my resurrection skills and could repair any damage instantly. Sending God on a speed awareness course for going 40 in a 30 seems pretty anal to me.

Definitely the most sense ever spoken on a Sicilian thread

Lol... perfectly good topical thought provoking thread and you turn up ...

tbf, I swerved pretending I know anything about the topic except that female strippers should always be female imo

Amen

[the sicilian]

Do we think God should abide by the law tho? This is God's law. And if I was God I would do as I please thanks. I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I want because I will never crash. But let's say I was drunk one night and did crash, well I could save all the victims with my resurrection skills and could repair any damage instantly. Sending God on a speed awareness course for going 40 in a 30 seems pretty anal to me.

Definitely the most sense ever spoken on a Sicilian thread

Lol... perfectly good topical thought provoking thread and you turn up ...

tbf, I swerved pretending I know anything about the topic except that female strippers should always be female imo

when would a female stripper not be a female stripper? you clarified the gender aspect before reaching the end of your statement

[MintTrav]

You checked with the Equality and Human Rights Commission and they confirmed that there is legislation in place to stop women becoming sperm donors?

Also model, athlete, stripper??? 

I was going for certain types of Welfare Officer as the other legitimate one but I´ll happily admit that it´s based on assumptions that I made based on some knowledge of this piece of legislation, rather than any detailed knowledge of specifically this element of it.

It's not that the people in those jobs have be a particular gender, just that it is permissable to make some jobs available only to people of one gender, such as the ones I listed. There are several reasons for it - to preserve dignity or decency, a requirement for strength, authenticity in entertainment and so on.

What's the issue with 'model'? If you are selling men's clothes, do you think the role of modelling them should be open to women? And what's wrong with 'athlete'? Try entering the AAA Women's Trials and see how far you get. I just picked on athlete, but many sports roles are only open to one gender.

Some other examples of roles listed in the Act or its Amendments as being capable of being advertised just to one gender include lady-in-waiting, contraceptive pill manufacturing operative, condom tester, surrogate mother, single-sex school laundry assistant and dominatrix.

[celtic]

Also, jobs at a womans refuge, are restricted to women. Lots of other examples, but I'm on my phone and can't be asked putting any real effort into a thread started by sicilian.

[kukushkin88]

You checked with the Equality and Human Rights Commission and they confirmed that there is legislation in place to stop women becoming sperm donors?

Also model, athlete, stripper??? 

I was going for certain types of Welfare Officer as the other legitimate one but I´ll happily admit that it´s based on assumptions that I made based on some knowledge of this piece of legislation, rather than any detailed knowledge of specifically this element of it.

It's not that the people in those jobs have be a particular gender, just that it is permissable to make some jobs available only to people of one gender, such as the ones I listed. There are several reasons for it - to preserve dignity or decency, a requirement for strength, authenticity in entertainment and so on.

What's the issue with 'model'? If you are selling men's clothes, do you think the role of modelling them should be open to women? And what's wrong with 'athlete'? Try entering the AAA Women's Trials and see how far you get. I just picked on athlete, but many sports roles are only open to one gender.

Some other examples of roles listed in the Act or its Amendments as being capable of being advertised just to one gender include lady-in-waiting, contraceptive pill manufacturing operative, condom tester, surrogate mother, single-sex school laundry assistant and dominatrix.

Yep all fair enough points, I hadn´t thought it through sufficiently/in the right sort of way and just thought it sounded silly so I criticised it but you´re right, apologies for being a bit of a dick about it and to all for the slight thread derail.

[Ant040689]

Yes, it's sexual discrimination the same way that many "faith" schools are able to discriminate based on the religions of the parents of children.

It does seem religion has this privilege, even in the UK's relatively secular and free society.

From this point I got a thinking about a tangent. Would it be fair to say that most faith schools perform better than non religious schools? I don't know the stats on it but presume that is the case as I hear of a lot of lay Catholics following the protocol of masses every Sunday and feigning Catholicism just so they can get their kids into Catholic Primary School. My sister in fact did this. But anyway, back to the point and that is why do faith schools perform better if they indeed do?

Does religion bring better familial discipline and therefore better behaved children? Sort of confused by it.

[bobAlike]

Yes, it's sexual discrimination the same way that many "faith" schools are able to discriminate based on the religions of the parents of children.

It does seem religion has this privilege, even in the UK's relatively secular and free society.

From this point I got a thinking about a tangent. Would it be fair to say that most faith schools perform better than non religious schools? I don't know the stats on it but presume that is the case as I hear of a lot of lay Catholics following the protocol of masses every Sunday and feigning Catholicism just so they can get their kids into Catholic Primary School. My sister in fact did this. But anyway, back to the point and that is why do faith schools perform better if they indeed do?

Does religion bring better familial discipline and therefore better behaved children? Sort of confused by it.

Out of all the schools, in the area I live, the pupils of the faith schools are far better behaved, look less scruffy and are more polite. This is purely my own observation and not backed up by statistics or a criminal register of sorts.

[kinboshi]

There are good faith schools and bad faith schools, just as there are good and bad non-faith schools. Sometimes it's a matter of funding.

The religion of the parents shouldn't be the determining factor though.

[bobAlike]

There are good faith schools and bad faith schools, just as there are good and bad non-faith schools. Sometimes it's a matter of funding.

The religion of the parents shouldn't be the determining factor though.

This is correct. Bring back grammar schools.

[Ant040689]

There are good faith schools and bad faith schools, just as there are good and bad non-faith schools. Sometimes it's a matter of funding.

The religion of the parents shouldn't be the determining factor though.

So the only reason as a whole the faith schools are normally better is probably because they are better funded? Rather than the principles of each religion that asks for each student to behave in a certain way, normally more pleasantly?

[kinboshi]

There are good faith schools and bad faith schools, just as there are good and bad non-faith schools. Sometimes it's a matter of funding.

The religion of the parents shouldn't be the determining factor though.

So the only reason as a whole the faith schools are normally better is probably because they are better funded? Rather than the principles of each religion that asks for each student to behave in a certain way, normally more pleasantly?

Your assertion assumes that religion is needed to make people behave morally. I'd argue that isn't the case and religion can in fact be a cause of 'bad' behaviour such as discrimination against others.