Short handed deepstack spot

[Doobs]

How important is the money to us?

We are in make up, have 50% of ourself and our backer is commentating, watching every hand

We need a bink

His backer should be very pleased with how he played and not be too results orientated.  He was at my table late afternoon, early evening day 2 and was playing really well if it is who I think it is.

 3 handed don't think you ever get away.  Hating the bet sizing on the 3 bet.  If that isn't standard for our oppo, maybe we have an out to our inevitable doom.

[ruud]

Obviously my entire analysis is based on the fact that we could go bust if we jam.

If stacks are in fact the other way around, I will have to have a rethink, but am struggling to see how my chips don't end up in the middle.

[LonOhRay]

As absurd as it sounds I may fold with pay jumps being so huge and the two players left in.

Sizing is absurd but is just 'lollivepro' saying i'm not folding to your jam from the button so based on this text I'd guesstimate his range to be something like 88-QQ, AJ+ KQs. With an inclination to peel weaker broadways, possibly pairs and SCs. (Could be way out here don't know his 3b frequency) - JJ is 60% v this range. Button most likely only continues with QQ+ if BB enters pot. - TT is 54%. And I really cant put a figure on the % he folds after 3b to 1.2, don't think it's going to be very high.

Wouldn't 3b/f 2.1m, he will probably put in the 99 TT and AQs 3 handed anyway.

Having position on SB for future hands 65bb deep with a significant edge is monumental at this point too.

Haven't run any ICM #s but I will later as I'm curious, and obv they're very important lol.


Don't think it is a simple jam that it looks like at first glance

[ruud]

The more I look at it, the more I am certain this is a fold, with Tighty's original text at least. Which it appears is not a true reflection of the hand in question.

[MC]

The more I look at it, the more I am certain this is a fold, with Tighty's original text at least. Which it appears is not a true reflection of the hand in question.

You seem to be forgetting that we are able to put in the last raise. It is essentially for the SB's tournament too, we can put huge ICM pressure on him by jamming.

Jamming unless I have a read that SB is super strong with this size 3b

[EvilPie]

The more I look at it, the more I am certain this is a fold, with Tighty's original text at least. Which it appears is not a true reflection of the hand in question.

You seem to be forgetting that we are able to put in the last raise. It is essentially for the SB's tournament too, we can put huge ICM pressure on him by jamming.

Jamming unless I have a read that SB is super strong with this size 3b

So you're just jamming to get him to fold everything we're ahead of?

This deep, live and with position shouldn't we be looking to make the most of our nice hand?

[MC]

The more I look at it, the more I am certain this is a fold, with Tighty's original text at least. Which it appears is not a true reflection of the hand in question.

You seem to be forgetting that we are able to put in the last raise. It is essentially for the SB's tournament too, we can put huge ICM pressure on him by jamming.

Jamming unless I have a read that SB is super strong with this size 3b

So you're just jamming to get him to fold everything we're ahead of?

This deep, live and with position shouldn't we be looking to make the most of our nice hand?

I guess maybe we can call, but it just seems a bit weird

I'm happy to sacrifice value from pairs that we probably dont get post flop anyway, given how strong cold-calling looks, to get KQ mayyyyyyybe AQ and even any Ax Kx hands out of there

"This deep" doesn't really apply when calling gives us a stack to pot ratio of barely more than 2.

Position, maybe. But this way he has the lead and any c-bet is a tournament life based decision for us.

[corkeye]

Calling pre is horrible

[Marky147]

Blinds were 100/200k and I also think that the button's stack was around 3m, but can't be 100% without rewatching the stream.

(BTN) opens to 400k (3m+)

(SB) Martyn makes it 1.4m (8.5m)

(BB) Neil looks down at JJ (9m)


1st £44k
2nd £25k
3rd £15k

[TightEnd]

Blinds were 100/200k and I also think that the button's stack was around 3m, but can't be 100% without rewatching the stream.

(BTN) opens to 400k (3m+)

(SB) Martyn makes it 1.4m (8.5m)

(BB) Neil looks down at JJ (9m)


1st £44k
2nd £25k
3rd £15k

thank you!

my memory is not what it was!

[Marky147]

No worries, a few years ago I'd have probably thought they were 6 handed at that time of the morning

[Yian]

I think this hand should play this way every time. It just appears so shocking because of the prize structure. This pot practically represnts a 30k jump from 3rd to 1st. Running JJ into QQ 3 handed is definitely a cooler that you shouldn't get away from. If the 3rd guy has <5bb left then we can consider making a drastic ICM decision but there's too many outcomes after folding JJ where we probably wish we'd have taken this spot. (this is without knowing our opponent had QQ of course)