Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs

[Ragz]

Not sure it works out better $/hr playing these than the $2 180 turbos. The reg speeds take 4+ hours whereas the turbos are usually less than 2hrs. But 100bis should be enough for the reg speed anyway.

[ashj22]

im not a big fan of turbos, i think im gonna stick with these for the time being.

[ashj22]

ok so here is one of the bust out hands, probaly silly even asking if its standard but can i get away here?

PokerStars Hand #95738491469: Tournament #705553469, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2013/03/18 11:53:48 WET [2013/03/18 7:53:48 ET]
Table '705553469 18' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: naitlis (1660 in chips)
Seat 2: iQube (1520 in chips)
Seat 3: Delta39x (1260 in chips)
Seat 4: Scothh (2280 in chips)
Seat 5: sotirakis33 (1680 in chips)
Seat 6: welliton17 (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: Zithenn (1265 in chips)
Seat 8: ashj22 (1525 in chips)
Seat 9: Hfpev (2310 in chips)
iQube: posts small blind 15
Delta39x: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ashj22 [ ]
Scothh: raises 30 to 60
sotirakis33: folds
welliton17: folds
Zithenn: calls 60
ashj22: raises 150 to 210
Hfpev: folds
naitlis: folds
iQube: folds
Delta39x: folds
Scothh: raises 2070 to 2280 and is all-in
Zithenn: folds
ashj22: calls 1315 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (755) returned to Scothh
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Scothh: shows [ ] (a full house, Kings full of Fives)
ashj22: shows [ ] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
Scothh collected 3155 from pot
ashj22 finished the tournament in 143rd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3155 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: naitlis (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: iQube (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Delta39x (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Scothh showed [ ] and won (3155) with a full house, Kings full of Fives
Seat 5: sotirakis33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: welliton17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Zithenn folded before Flop
Seat 8: ashj22 showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Queens and Fives
Seat 9: Hfpev folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[ashj22]

ITM 2/27

[ashj22]

the river counterfeited me twice when i had two pair in descent sized pots aswell still in though 9/12

[ashj22]

ft 8/9

[ashj22]

dont know what was more tilting the time it took to fill up or the final table bubble.

[ashj22]

am out 8/180 donkey called my shove with qjs what a fish.

[ashj22]

i have a few hands to post a bit later if i could get feedback on them would be greatly appreciated.

[ashj22]

HAND 1

PokerStars Hand #95737272777: Tournament #705534736, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2013/03/18 11:13:53 WET [2013/03/18 7:13:53 ET]
Table '705534736 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: MrKroenen (1652 in chips)
Seat 2: albiniuks (2045 in chips)
Seat 3: FroggerFL (1620 in chips)
Seat 4: ashj22 (1645 in chips)
Seat 5: ilivad (2825 in chips)
Seat 6: athos.adr (3515 in chips)
Seat 7: bowlmoah (2945 in chips)
Seat 8: DSMaverick (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: ntamacoupa (928 in chips)
ilivad: posts small blind 15
athos.adr: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ashj22 [ Ah]
bowlmoah: folds
DSMaverick: folds
ntamacoupa: folds
MrKroenen: folds
albiniuks: folds
FroggerFL: folds
ashj22: raises 30 to 60 <---------------- raise from postion cos i feel that the blinds will defend with worse than a8
ilivad: folds
athos.adr: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [ ] <-------------------- check flop for pot control and deception
athos.adr: checks
ashj22: checks
*** TURN *** [ ] []
athos.adr: bets 30
ashj22: raises 60 to 90        <---------------- raise his weird min turn bet as i feel im ahead im going for value
athos.adr: raises 60 to 150   <--------------- call weird min re raise to see what he does on river
ashj22: calls 60
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
athos.adr: bets 420  <----------------- not really sure what to put him on but is he going to value bet worse than a8
ashj22: folds
Uncalled bet (420) returned to athos.adr
athos.adr collected 435 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 435 | Rake 0
Board [ ]

would just like to know is there any flawed thought process here? thanks

[ashj22]

PokerStars Hand #95738756761: Tournament #705534736, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/18 12:03:15 WET [2013/03/18 8:03:15 ET]
Table '705534736 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: hard2crack (8230 in chips)
Seat 2: IvgvardV (3390 in chips)
Seat 3: Chewporka (3931 in chips)
Seat 4: Dan4ik17 (4336 in chips)
Seat 5: dexter777720 (5725 in chips)
Seat 6: ashj22 (1235 in chips)
Seat 7: schepok (7379 in chips)
Seat 8: ilivad (1748 in chips)
Seat 9: pacino_k (2315 in chips)
IvgvardV: posts small blind 75
Chewporka: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ashj22 [ ]
Dan4ik17: raises 300 to 450
dexter777720: folds
ashj22: raises 785 to 1235 and is all-in <------------------- is this standard i know im getting called and im either flipping or crushed but my stack is ridic small and i feel i need to take a shot
schepok: folds
ilivad: folds
pacino_k: folds
hard2crack: folds
IvgvardV: folds
Chewporka: folds
Dan4ik17: calls 785
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dan4ik17: shows [Ah ] (a pair of Queens)
ashj22: shows [ ] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
ashj22 collected 2695 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2695 | Rake 0
Board [ ]

[ashj22]

so far 4 played = $18 and 1 cash 8/180 for $16.23 so im -$1.77.

[MC]

Can't imagine these being a good way to build a roll. $2-$2.50 a game is probably attainable, and with 50% ROI downswings shouldn't be too gross (shouldn't have 100+ buyin downswings often I wouldn't think).

If you're playing these for fun or whatever then fair enough but gl playing enough a day to make any money.

[MC]

Btw 22 is a clear fold and A8 you should be betting flop for value.

[ashj22]

not a good way to build a roll? really i have done a fair bit of research and its everywhere that these are apperently great br buliders and someone on 2+2 said a good player at these could attain 100% roi. with the 22 hand i had 8bb and the blinds are coming round so i cant sit around all day and blind down imo. thanks for the feedback appreciate it.

im not looking to try and make descent money straight off the bat but if that 100% roi is attainable i could easily play 200 a month which would mean $900 a month and i know thats not much money but it looks like it could bulid the br up quite nicely.obv this may not be realistic at all thats why im asking around.