Thatcher dead?

[horseplayer]

personally i do not have an opinion either way , mainly because i was not around at the time.

i can only imagine what my grandad would have made of today though as he spent a lot of my childhood telling me how much she had directly effected his life and how much he hated the woman (those words)

considering otherwise he would not say boo to a goose it stayed with me

[MANTIS01]

@mulhuzz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1520s_in_England

Henry VIIIs poll tax was actually 1525 not 1520 so dammit shudda run to Wikipedia before spouting complete nonsense. Doubleup correct that this measure was not linked to the electoral role, this is chiefly because the electoral role was 300 years away. Jon MW is correct that every solution to the problem has been unpopular. Would like to hear a fair solution.

@Doobs - yep my mrs has loads of new shoes she bought on her credit card too. I keep telling her buying stuff you can't afford will only land her in a lot of debt.

[Acidmouse]

We can argue semantics over the original concept of the poll tax but that's taking away from the real issue. She brought it in under national condemnation and within her own party which ultimately led to her downfall.

She was so up her own arse in the end of her leadership she was a massive time bomb waiting to go off, hence the reason they stabbed her in the back from within the Tory party.

To adopt a policy (in a modern society) that was so unfair even her closest supporters told her not to go ahead of with it, says alot.  London streets had not seen protests for years

[Acidmouse]

Definitely pro Thatcher here and proud of it. My life, my family and those around me certainly benefitted from having a PM with balls. T

Sums it up really, me me me.

[Jon MW]

Definitely pro Thatcher here and proud of it. My life, my family and those around me certainly benefitted from having a PM with balls. T

Sums it up really, me me me.

Thatcher didn't even invent the me me me mentality as an economic force either.

The theory that if everyone tries to maximise their own wealth and welfare than the accumulation of all those efforts will benefit the whole economy is over 200 years old.

[bobAlike]

20 pages

Under, but I've got money to blow thanks to Maggie

Thatcherism in a nutshell.

On Fire  !!

It was a tap in after the set up

[Tal]

This whole thread is, I imagine, a watered down internet.

[bobAlike]

Definitely pro Thatcher here and proud of it. My life, my family and those around me certainly benefitted from having a PM with balls. T

Sums it up really, me me me.

Yes it may be a 'me, me, me' centric view but so what. First and foremost my family and their welfare is my priority and secondly everyone else. It's my view and I'll stand by it. I am now able to support my family and contribute to society by means of my tax contributions and charitable donations all largely down to Maggie.

The Thatcher years made me what I am today and I'm proud of that. It taught me that I should not expect things on a plate and that I should earn what I want out of life whether that's working for myself or for somebody else.

[Simon Galloway]

Definitely pro Thatcher here and proud of it. My life, my family and those around me certainly benefitted from having a PM with balls. T

Sums it up really, me me me.

Doesn't everyone vote for what suits them, whatever their beliefs?  Perhaps it is a fault of our electoral system, but just about every Bill that receives Royal Assent was not voted for by the majority of the electorate.

I first started to become politically aware when Callaghan was PM.  For those not as old as me, "winter of discontent" would give a decent google search as to what life was like in Britain in 1977-78.

Maggie came in, trounced the Unions, took away most of their power and the Nation seemed to prosper as a result (of this and other successes) ~ from my perspective as a schoolboy in the South... I wasn't in a Northern Mining town at the time.

A few years later, I started to become economically aware and started to understand the economic benefits derived from eradicating double-figure inflation.

Overall, I was a Maggie fan.  That's not to say that I liked or agreed with every initiative or policy implemented.  

I think it is fair game to discuss her record and her policies.  There is nothing fair game about enjoying watching someone's health deteriorate into old age.

RIP.

[Acidmouse]

I am glad Thatcher made you what you are today.

I judge her rein not on the effects to me or my family but on the lasting effects it had on those least fortunate in our society, those that needed the most help.

I am not sure why so many people are adamant they would not have succeeded in life/business etc if it was not for her? bizarre.

We have leading political figures telling us how much she did for the environment and green issues, next they will be telling us the Miners love her and she didn't create a War to be popular.

[TightEnd]

she didn't create a War to be popular.

you what?

The reaction to the Argentine invasion of the Falklands was one of her towering achievements.

Not sure how she created the situation!

[The Camel]

Definitely pro Thatcher here and proud of it. My life, my family and those around me certainly benefitted from having a PM with balls. T

Sums it up really, me me me.

Yes it may be a 'me, me, me' centric view but so what. First and foremost my family and their welfare is my priority and secondly everyone else. It's my view and I'll stand by it. I am now able to support my family and contribute to society by means of my tax contributions and charitable donations all largely down to Maggie.

The Thatcher years made me what I am today and I'm proud of that. It taught me that I should not expect things on a plate and that I should earn what I want out of life whether that's working for myself or for somebody else.

My parents and school teachers taught me that.

[The Camel]

she didn't create a War to be popular.

you what?

The reaction to the Argentine invasion of the Falklands was one of her towering achievements.

Not sure how she created the situation!

She was one of the most unpopular PMs ever until the Falklands War. The whole thing was about winning the 1983 election

[bobAlike]

I am glad Thatcher made you what you are today.

I judge her rein not on the effects to me or my family but on the lasting effects it had on those least fortunate in our society, those that needed the most help.

I am not sure why so many people are adamant they would not have succeeded in life/business etc if it was not for her? bizarre.

We have leading political figures telling us how much she did for the environment and green issues, next they will be telling us the Miners love her and she didn't create a War to be popular.

I started my first business under a Thatcher government, I had my best years in business under a Conservative government, I had the my worst years in business under a labour government. That's why I feel the way I do. If you think things would have been better under a different government then just look at the state of the country now.

And I'm glad you're glad that Thatcher made me what I am today

[The Camel]

Don't think Kinboshi did much work today.

Everywhere on my Facebook timeline it says "Daniel Phillips likes this".