Athletics Thread

[Woodsey]

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners?  

lol, u want a number? Lots is enough I would think.......

OK.

So answer my next question.  Being able to train injury-free, in addition to a much better coaching setup - how much quicker does that make a 100m runner?

Don't know you tell me? As much as he has improved in that time lol? Are you not in the slightest bit suspicious?

[outragous76]

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners? 

lol, u want a number? Lots is enough I would think.......

OK.

So answer my next question.  Being able to train injury-free, in addition to a much better coaching setup - how much quicker does that make a 100m runner?

But this in a way is a very good case in point isn't it.

The kid might have trained like a beast, injury free and become a legend with a new trainer/programme/diet. Yet the first question people ask is "has he been tested"

And he cant win, because if at any point he fails a test it'll be "I told you so, you cant trust athletics",  even if he just doesn't manage to keep up a high level for performance it will be suggested.

When you cant trust the sport its no fun to watch

[Woodsey]

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners? 

lol, u want a number? Lots is enough I would think.......

OK.

So answer my next question.  Being able to train injury-free, in addition to a much better coaching setup - how much quicker does that make a 100m runner?

When you cant trust the sport its no fun to watch

I can't trust this I'm afraid......

[outragous76]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23307913

how many huge races in the 100m have involved powell? What we supposed to think about all those now?

[kinboshi]

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners? 

lol, u want a number? Lots is enough I would think.......

OK.

So answer my next question.  Being able to train injury-free, in addition to a much better coaching setup - how much quicker does that make a 100m runner?

Don't know you tell me? As much as he has improved in that time? Are not in the slightest bit suspicious?

I've already mentioned it's a great improvement - but we're talking about 0.14 of a second.  I think that's definitely doable if a runner (who became a full-time athlete later on than many other runners) has been hampered by injuries, and manages to train for a sustained period without them - whilst also receiving better coaching, etc.  Alternatively, it could be drug-assisted - but don't see any evidence for that.

Mo Farah went from a nearly-man to the golden member of the GB team.  Was this through drugs, or was it the natural progression of his career combined with his move to live and train full-time in the States with the exceptional coach Salazar?  Of course, there are people who point the finger at Farah as well, especially as he has had sprint-training from Smith who was associated with the BALCO drugs scandal.

[Woodsey]

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners? 

lol, u want a number? Lots is enough I would think.......

OK.

So answer my next question.  Being able to train injury-free, in addition to a much better coaching setup - how much quicker does that make a 100m runner?

Don't know you tell me? As much as he has improved in that time? Are not in the slightest bit suspicious?

I've already mentioned it's a great improvement - but we're talking about 0.14 of a second.  I think that's definitely doable if a runner (who became a full-time athlete later on than many other runners) has been hampered by injuries, and manages to train for a sustained period without them - whilst also receiving better coaching, etc.  Alternatively, it could be drug-assisted - but don't see any evidence for that.

Mo Farah went from a nearly-man to the golden member of the GB team.  Was this through drugs, or was it the natural progression of his career combined with his move to live and train full-time in the States with the exceptional coach Salazar?  Of course, there are people who point the finger at Farah as well, especially as he has had sprint-training from Smith who was associated with the BALCO drugs scandal.

I admire your faith in human honestly Dan I really do lol, I really hope my suspicions are wrong, trust me I really do. Guess we will see in time.....

[kinboshi]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23307913

how many huge races in the 100m have involved powell? What we supposed to think about all those now?

Oh, it's extremely sad and does taint the 100m.  But not sure that ruins the whole of athletics, and neither will it spoil my enjoyment of watching Tirunesh Dibaba run the 5,000 and 10,000m, or getting excited about new British talents such as Jessica Judd.  Watching 'Super Saturday' at the Olympics was one of the best sporting occasions I've seen, and not once did I consider the issue of drugs cheats.

[The Camel]

Just let them all take drugs.

Who is to say what is allowable and what isn't? Natural supplements or manufactured drugs?

Pleased Gay hasn't tried to deny it at least.

[Woodsey]

Just let them all take drugs.

No, don't agree with that at all. That will just lead to abuse of health at all costs to win. On one level I can see that argument for an individual if they want to do it, but there will be outsiders seeking to profit by encouraging athletes to take all kinds of bullshit with no consequence to themselves other than making money. Wrong wrong wrong.......

[MintTrav]

Farah has won sixteen medals at World, Olympic and European Track & Cross-Country Championships.

Gold and Silver at the last World Championships, three Golds and a Silver at the Europeans, two Golds at the European Indoors.

Nearly man?

[kinboshi]

Farah has won sixteen medals at World, Olympic and European Track & Cross-Country Championships.

Gold and Silver at the last World Championships, three Golds and a Silver at the Europeans, two Golds at the European Indoors.

Nearly man?

Before moving to the States and working with Salazar, how many golds had he won against World-class opposition? Of course, he was a fantastic runner before then - but outside of athletics fans, he was far from a household name.  It's since then he moved up a level.

[kinboshi]

Just let them all take drugs.

No, don't agree with that at all. That will just lead to abuse of health at all costs to win. On one level I can see that argument for an individual if they want to do it, but there will be outsiders seeking to profit by encouraging athletes to take all kinds of bullshit with no consequence to themselves other than making money. Wrong wrong wrong.......

In agreement with Woodsey for once

[Woodsey]

Just let them all take drugs.

No, don't agree with that at all. That will just lead to abuse of health at all costs to win. On one level I can see that argument for an individual if they want to do it, but there will be outsiders seeking to profit by encouraging athletes to take all kinds of bullshit with no consequence to themselves other than making money. Wrong wrong wrong.......

In agreement with Woodsey for once

Get stuffed, I said it first 

[kinboshi]

Just let them all take drugs.

No, don't agree with that at all. That will just lead to abuse of health at all costs to win. On one level I can see that argument for an individual if they want to do it, but there will be outsiders seeking to profit by encouraging athletes to take all kinds of bullshit with no consequence to themselves other than making money. Wrong wrong wrong.......

In agreement with Woodsey for once

Get stuffed, I said it first 

You had to, otherwise I couldn't agree with you

[Rubbish2407]

To be honest I don't see what all the fuss is about. I've got nothing but admiration for guys like Lance Armstrong. He won SEVEN Tour De France's whilst ripped of his tits on drugs. I cycled home once from my mates house after dropping some E's and hit a dog and fell into a canal. It's not as easy as it looks.