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« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2013, 07:20:10 PM »

Theo and Peter Jones are entreprenuers, so their 'talent level' is about their hard work, drive and business acumen more than anything. Not sure how they could be considered anything but talented in that respect. Yes they do both have quite overbearing personalities, but they know what they are talking about.

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« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2013, 07:21:26 PM »

Keanu Reeves
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« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2013, 07:23:05 PM »

I think William Hague is a real talent. Superb intellect. Much much better than Cameron as a theorist, but not really a leader as his image is a bit "specialist" for the wider public

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And brilliant parliamentarian.

At the dispatch box he's genuinely witty, scathing and yet thoughtful and diplomatic.

I think he'd be a great PM.

A really good politician imo.

See, I just don't see this at all.  Debating skills alone (and I'll concede, this is where he shines) do not make a great politician and the content of what he says is overshadowed by the fake accent.

A truly great politician can transcend party politics and at least be respected by supporters of other parties.  Hague couldn't even be guaranteed a warm welcome in his home town.

I  would guess Labour politicians respect Hague far more than any other senior member of the current government, with the possible exception of Vince Cable.
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« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2013, 07:24:28 PM »

Keanu Reeves

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« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2013, 07:24:43 PM »

Theo and Peter Jones are entreprenuers, so their 'talent level' is about their hard work, drive and business acumen more than anything. Not sure how they could be considered anything but talented in that respect. Yes they do both have quite overbearing personalities, but they know what they are talking about.

Agree with this, yes they have created media profiles, but they have grafted and were successful before any of this.
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« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2013, 07:25:35 PM »

Politicians, maybe, but not grass roots supporters.
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« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2013, 07:36:21 PM »

Theo and Peter Jones are entreprenuers, so their 'talent level' is about their hard work, drive and business acumen more than anything. Not sure how they could be considered anything but talented in that respect. Yes they do both have quite overbearing personalities, but they know what they are talking about.

Agree with this, yes they have created media profiles, but they have grafted and were successful before any of this.

Theo Paphitis started as a watch salesman and grafted from the bottom of the ladder. His skill when he made money was turning struggling businesses around. La Senza and Rymans were completely saved by his acumen. Sir Philip Green is a more pronounced example of the same thing. Astonishing talent to turn a multi million pound loss into a multi million pound profit.
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« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2013, 07:42:25 PM »



Tom Cruise, not Rich Hall
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« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2013, 08:07:28 PM »

Lady Gaga.
Frank Lampard. (respeck)
Eminem.
Roy Hodgson.
John Wayne.
Adam Richman. (still a legend)
Chris Tarrant.
Anna Kournikova.
Jeff Stelling.
Tim Henman.
Peter Jones/Theo Paphitis.
Daniel Craig.

Tim Henman?!?!?!?

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He was number 4 tennis player in the world ffs! Brilliant player, unlucky to be around when Sampras was so dominant, else he would have won Wimbledon. His volleying was an absolute joy to watch.

and the word legend is massively overused in these parts, but Jeff Stelling surely deserves that title.

Got a big soft spot for Stelling but not overly talented imho.

Henman? Lucky I didn't bold, italic and underline him!
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« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2013, 08:11:39 PM »

Daniel Craig won't win an Oscar but he's a better actor than at least two Bonds.

Sadly he probably will. An English period drama opposite Judi Dench should do the trick (or was that Bond? Smiley). Tbf most Bonds achieved success beyond their talent. No real point highlighting Craig as he's better than almost all of his predecessors.
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« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2013, 08:30:04 PM »

Robbie Williams.

Cheryl Cole.

Simon Pegg.

James Corden.

And my personal favourite, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2013, 08:43:10 PM »

Robbie Williams.

Cheryl Cole.

Simon Pegg.

James Corden.

And my personal favourite, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Robbie Williams? ROBBIE WILLIAMS?

THE Robbie Williams?

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« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2013, 08:51:43 PM »

Robbie Williams.

Cheryl Cole.

Simon Pegg.

James Corden.

And my personal favourite, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Agree with all but Pegg. Corden is just awful.

Arnie is cool because he sucks.
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« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2013, 08:58:19 PM »

Robbie Williams.

Cheryl Cole.

Simon Pegg.

James Corden.

And my personal favourite, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Agree with all but Pegg. Corden is just awful.

Arnie is cool because he sucks.

Say it ain't so. Robbie is a God. Or, at the very least, an Angel.
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« Reply #59 on: September 14, 2013, 09:01:52 PM »

Sadly I can't stand Robbie. I can't deny he is a tremendous showman, but I think his songs are pants.
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