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« Reply #165 on: November 10, 2014, 06:38:43 PM »

Skrill card, simples
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« Reply #166 on: November 10, 2014, 06:44:24 PM »

Skrill card, simples

Not without charges of their own to move money around.
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« Reply #167 on: November 10, 2014, 06:50:16 PM »

Skrill card, simples

Not without charges of their own to move money around.

If you are talking large amounts fairly regularly which I guess you are you would be vip skrill Level very quickly or straight away if you contacted them
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« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2014, 06:53:46 PM »

get a metrobank account.

no charges on debit card usage.
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« Reply #169 on: November 10, 2014, 07:06:12 PM »

get a metrobank account.

no charges on debit card usage.

International  ?
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« Reply #170 on: November 10, 2014, 07:29:43 PM »

europe. international not as good, but for EPT guys worth it imo.
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« Reply #171 on: November 11, 2014, 03:44:25 AM »

When does the raking of rebuys start?

Is it for certain?

I've looked on the Stars site, can't see anything.
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« Reply #172 on: November 11, 2014, 03:49:59 AM »

When does the raking of rebuys start?

Is it for certain?

I've looked on the Stars site, can't see anything.
Jan 1st.
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« Reply #173 on: November 11, 2014, 04:02:43 AM »

When does the raking of rebuys start?

Is it for certain?

I've looked on the Stars site, can't see anything.
Jan 1st.

Have the said at what rate they will be raked?
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« Reply #174 on: November 11, 2014, 04:26:11 AM »

Couldn't find it with a quick google and a look on the threads, I believe its similar to the initial buyin rake, possibly the same.

Good post from Vamplew here:

Quote from: davidv1213;2+2 forum
Sent a report email to the Competition and Markets Authority, basically followed raidalots advice: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=45091150&postcount=529
Their website is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/report-anti-competitive-or-market-issues-to-the-cma

Here is what I wrote on their form:

"Who do you represent:
Myself

Who you are complaining about:
Amaya Gaming Group/Pokerstars

Details of what you would like to report
Pokerstars, one of three online poker networks owned by Amaya Gaming Group, has become dominant in the online poker industry and has reduced the competition to an ineffective level including buying and running down their largest competitor, Full Tilt Poker.

Despite making exceptional margins (38% EBITDA margins) on the business already, Pokerstars is squeezing its customers even harder.
Recent changes include the introduction of foreign exchange fees for cashouts, removal of leaderboard rewards, increased rake (house fee) in most game types, introduction of faster formats (“Spin & Go”) which rake more money more quickly and a switch from rebuy (only first entry raked) to re-entry (all entries raked) tournaments.

There are also plans to introduce additional rake on all rebuys for UK players from January 1st under the guise of taxation under local regulations, however the tax is on the site’s revenues which are unaffected by these currently unraked rebuys from UK players.

Further to this they have not communicated these changes effectively to the player base (only announcing the changes via an internet forum post) and it is likely many players are unaware of the higher fees they are now paying.

I believe these changes amount to an abuse of a monopoly by Pokerstars.

Online poker traffic history viewable here: http://www.pokerscout.com/ owned by Amaya are Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker and Ongame.
38% EBITDA margins reported here by The Financial Times: http://*******/uKMxNx
Plans to rake UK players on rebuys starting January 1st stated here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...anets-1485512/


Details of which market you think the issue is in
Section R: ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT AND RECREATION
Division 92: Gambling and betting activities

Details of the kind of issue you think it is
Competition law

Have you contacted another organisation about this issue? If so, which?
No"


If you want to do the same I have the form is in a google doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qIJnsu--dtQPvx0Uc88jppUm6QQwCgZuGX6HhfkLWtE/edit?usp=sharing
- file/make a copy
- fill in your details
- file/email as attachment, address is reporting@cma.gsi.gov.uk


edit: starred out part of link is goo[DOT]gl, i guess url shorteners arent allowed

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« Reply #175 on: November 11, 2014, 01:59:58 PM »

Problem is, PokerStars rake is still lower/the same as their competitors in virtually every regard.  If competitors really want to compete on rake, they can.
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« Reply #176 on: November 12, 2014, 10:32:52 AM »

From PokerStars to GreedStars - a view of the recent PokerStars cost cutting initiatives by Talal Shakerchi

http://ow.ly/DLYX8
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« Reply #177 on: November 12, 2014, 01:49:34 PM »

Rumours at the Financial Times of Amaya making a bid for Bwin.Party.

In response Bwin.Party released a statement which basically said 'Yeah, we're talking to people'
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« Reply #178 on: November 12, 2014, 01:51:42 PM »

Rumours at the Financial Times of Amaya making a bid for Bwin.Party.

In response Bwin.Party released a statement which basically said 'Yeah, we're talking to people'

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that the poker community will be overjoyed at such a prospect.
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« Reply #179 on: November 12, 2014, 01:53:55 PM »

Tighty, you might want to give Blondepoker the once over with a hoover up and a bit of a polish in case Amaya come knocking with their wallet open.
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