Do I have to pay?

[cambridgealex]

This is not going well guys.

They keep sending letters, now from debt collectors and solictors. A £60 fine is now up to £202! What's worse is that the address is out of date, and it's being forwarded to my Mum so she is opening the letters each time and fuming with me!

You really think this isn't legit? I really can't be arsed dealing with this stress, for the sake of £60 I should've just paid initially.

[Dewi_cool]

This how to deal with them



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[mulhuzz]

Would only apply in the event of them being awarded judgement, which they won't, so continue to ignore them and tell your mum to do the same.

They can't send anyone to the house without a court judgment and they won't do that because they don't win these cases and they know it. I know that's what your mum will be worried about, bailiffs at the door - I know mine would be! But if won't happen.

Notice how much they stressed that these extra charges were imaginary, sorry illustrative!

[cambridgealex]

Would only apply in the event of them being awarded judgement, which they won't, so continue to ignore them and tell your mum to do the same.

They can't send anyone to the house without a court judgment and they won't do that because they don't win these cases and they know it. I know that's what your mum will be worried about, bailiffs at the door - I know mine would be! But if won't happen.

Notice how much they stressed that these extra charges were imaginary, sorry illustrative!

It's all very easy to say this from behind the keyboard isn't it?! Would you tell your Mum the same thing?

Are you saying that you can park anywhere and never have to pay the fine if you ignore? Because they are in the right, I did park without a permit (even if it was a monthly permit at 1am, and expired at midnight!).

So Mulhuzz and others that say ignore it kinboshi etc, do you just rofl about the country parking where you want, with a mailbox full of letters from debt collectors?

[pleno1]

Would only apply in the event of them being awarded judgement, which they won't, so continue to ignore them and tell your mum to do the same.

They can't send anyone to the house without a court judgment and they won't do that because they don't win these cases and they know it. I know that's what your mum will be worried about, bailiffs at the door - I know mine would be! But if won't happen.

Notice how much they stressed that these extra charges were imaginary, sorry illustrative!

It's all very easy to say this from behind the keyboard isn't it?! Would you tell your Mum the same thing?

Are you saying that you can park anywhere and never have to pay the fine if you ignore? Because they are in the right, I did park without a permit (even if it was a monthly permit at 1am, and expired at midnight!).

So Mulhuzz and others that say ignore it kinboshi etc, do you just rofl about the country parking where you want, with a mailbox full of letters from debt collectors?

:D

[RED-DOG]

“Choose your battles wisely. After all, life isn't measured by how many times you stood up to fight. It's not winning battles that makes you happy, but it's how many times you turned away and chose to look into a better direction. Life is too short to spend it on warring. Fight only the most important ones, let the rest go.”

C. JoyBell .

[mulhuzz]

Would only apply in the event of them being awarded judgement, which they won't, so continue to ignore them and tell your mum to do the same.

They can't send anyone to the house without a court judgment and they won't do that because they don't win these cases and they know it. I know that's what your mum will be worried about, bailiffs at the door - I know mine would be! But if won't happen.

Notice how much they stressed that these extra charges were imaginary, sorry illustrative!

It's all very easy to say this from behind the keyboard isn't it?! Would you tell your Mum the same thing?

Are you saying that you can park anywhere and never have to pay the fine if you ignore? Because they are in the right, I did park without a permit (even if it was a monthly permit at 1am, and expired at midnight!).

So Mulhuzz and others that say ignore it kinboshi etc, do you just rofl about the country parking where you want, with a mailbox full of letters from debt collectors?

I would say this to my mum. And you're both right and wrong that they are in the right:

1. They are right that you were parked without a permit.
2. They are wrong that they cannot charge you 'punitively' for that, which is what they are doing.

Point two is a pretty well settled area of law. They could sue you for the damage you'd caused - but they won't, because it's not enough for the court to award their costs. In fact if you only overstayed by 1hr then it's likely that they couldn't show any damage at all!

Finally, no, you can't bandy around the country parking where you like because you might find yourself receiving a Penalty Charge Notice (not a Parking Charge Notice) from police, councils etc who you would actually have to pay.

[mulhuzz]

Additionally, you did ask if you have to pay in OP.

My personal opinion is that if you pay then you are contributing to an inefficient and frankly immoral system of assuring the appropriate allocation of parking spaces.

However, you might feel differently.

But clearly you should be aware of how they operate when you first ask - the crisis of conscious about whether to pay now is a reflection of the fact that you didn't know that, or didn't think about it, maybe.

They will send these letters because it costs 50p to send and they don't have to have a big conversation rate to make them profitable, hoping in fact to benefit from such crises of conscious.

If you decide to pay now it's 1.0000000000000000000000000001 they will accept your offer of £60.

But I wouldn't pay, because you don't legally have to. If you fee ethically somehow deficient in not paying, then don't worry that the price has gone up, because it hasn't.

[BorntoBubble]

Ive got two on going at the minute, the second one is unfortunate as I probably would have paid it had it not been for the 1st letter.

the first letter came from a parking firm when I drove through their car park to reach another car park. It took me 4 phone calls and 2 letters to get them to stop bothering me, I would have ignored this one had I not been in my mums car and the letters being sent to her and in her name I felt I had to get it sorted.

The second one I stopped for approximately 35 seconds in a lay by at Liverpool airport at about 3:30 in the morning and have been told I need to pay.

Unfortunately they keep sending the letter to our company with the company name spelt completely wrong. So I am just ignoring it.

[horseplayer]

The advice is correct

However if it is botheringgg you and your mum this much just pay it

[cambridgealex]

If you decide to pay now it's 1.0000000000000000000000000001 they will accept your offer of £60.

I'm not a betting man, does that mean they likely will accept or they won't?

[mulhuzz]

If you decide to pay now it's 1.0000000000000000000000000001 they will accept your offer of £60.

I'm not a betting man, does that mean they likely will accept or they won't?

Something something live players something :p

[rfgqqabc]

If you decide to pay now it's 1.0000000000000000000000000001 they will accept your offer of £60.

I'm not a betting man, does that mean they likely will accept or they won't?

Something something live players something :p

What would happen if you sent a score in the post? Would they settle?

[cambridgealex]

If you decide to pay now it's 1.0000000000000000000000000001 they will accept your offer of £60.

I'm not a betting man, does that mean they likely will accept or they won't?

Something something live players something :p

ah you mean they're at it

[david3103]

A quick google of Gladstones reveals them to be old hands in the parking charge rip off.

I'm firmly in the 'let 'em sue ' camp.