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arbboy
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August 29, 2015, 11:06:16 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on August 29, 2015, 10:58:22 PM
In terms of all time greats I think it's difficult to look past setting a world record and then it taking ages for someone else to beat it.
Colin Jackson's lasted 11 years. Daley Thompson's was 8 years. Seb Coe 16 years. Jonathan Edwards 20 years and counting. Paula Radcliffe's marathon record is at 12 years and there are those that think it may stand for 30 or 40 years, as it's so far ahead of what anyone else has done.
I know arbboy reckons Coe was dirty but certainly the others were 100% clean.
I don't think Coe is dirty at all. He was my idol as a kid and one of the reasons i went to lboro uni!! Camel is convinced he is a cheat. His world record was insane so i am dubious but hopeful.
Sebs record stood til 2012 london final from early 80s fwiw unless i am wrong.
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AndrewT
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Ah, apologies.
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August 29, 2015, 11:07:16 PM »
Spycam at Arb towers, sometime this evening while the thread developed
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August 29, 2015, 11:08:22 PM »
Quote from: Marky147 on August 29, 2015, 11:07:16 PM
Spycam at Arb towers, sometime this evening while the thread developed
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August 29, 2015, 11:08:31 PM »
Quote from: Ironside on August 29, 2015, 11:04:14 PM
chris akabusi would of won more medals and broke some records if it wasnt for the laughing gas
400h was ridic tough then. Pretty weak now, steeplechaser won the last one.
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August 29, 2015, 11:12:23 PM »
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: Ironside on August 29, 2015, 11:04:14 PM
chris akabusi would of won more medals and broke some records if it wasnt for the laughing gas
400h was ridic tough then. Pretty weak now, steeplechaser won the last one.
Ed Moses ftw!
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August 29, 2015, 11:13:24 PM »
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on August 29, 2015, 10:58:22 PM
In terms of all time greats I think it's difficult to look past setting a world record and then it taking ages for someone else to beat it.
Colin Jackson's lasted 11 years. Daley Thompson's was 8 years. Seb Coe 16 years. Jonathan Edwards 20 years and counting. Paula Radcliffe's marathon record is at 12 years and there are those that think it may stand for 30 or 40 years, as it's so far ahead of what anyone else has done.
I know arbboy reckons Coe was dirty but certainly the others were 100% clean.
I don't think Coe is dirty at all. He was my idol as a kid and one of the reasons i went to lboro uni!! Camel is convinced he is a cheat. His world record was insane so i am dubious but hopeful.
Sebs record stood til 2012 london final from early 80s fwiw unless i am wrong.
kipketer broke it in the 90s
stood about 15 years.
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August 29, 2015, 11:16:39 PM »
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 11:13:24 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on August 29, 2015, 10:58:22 PM
In terms of all time greats I think it's difficult to look past setting a world record and then it taking ages for someone else to beat it.
Colin Jackson's lasted 11 years. Daley Thompson's was 8 years. Seb Coe 16 years. Jonathan Edwards 20 years and counting. Paula Radcliffe's marathon record is at 12 years and there are those that think it may stand for 30 or 40 years, as it's so far ahead of what anyone else has done.
I know arbboy reckons Coe was dirty but certainly the others were 100% clean.
I don't think Coe is dirty at all. He was my idol as a kid and one of the reasons i went to lboro uni!! Camel is convinced he is a cheat. His world record was insane so i am dubious but hopeful.
Sebs record stood til 2012 london final from early 80s fwiw unless i am wrong.
kipketer broke it in the 90s
stood about 15 years.
ok cheers.
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August 30, 2015, 12:09:38 AM »
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 11:08:22 PM
Quote from: Marky147 on August 29, 2015, 11:07:16 PM
Spycam at Arb towers, sometime this evening while the thread developed
Greyhound Racing: £6,708.35 Total P&L: £6,708.35
The crayford bias has helped to stop me head butting the machine all night. I haven't had a drink yet. Looking forward to the boozer in 20 minutes!!!
Haha, good stuff, son!
Don't think I'm alone when I say that I prefer it when you start polishing the Stella off early doors
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August 30, 2015, 12:11:55 AM »
Quote from: Marky147 on August 30, 2015, 12:09:38 AM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 11:08:22 PM
Quote from: Marky147 on August 29, 2015, 11:07:16 PM
Spycam at Arb towers, sometime this evening while the thread developed
Greyhound Racing: £6,708.35 Total P&L: £6,708.35
The crayford bias has helped to stop me head butting the machine all night. I haven't had a drink yet. Looking forward to the boozer in 20 minutes!!!
Haha, good stuff, son!
Don't think I'm alone when I say that I prefer it when you start polishing the Stella off early doors
2nd one on its way south now. Always feels better when bf is paying for it. 4pm Monday was a serious one off. Don't expect a repeat performance any time soon!
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August 30, 2015, 12:27:53 AM »
6k profit on the dogs on a Saturday night would ease the stress of these lot trying to wind you up arb nice lift bud enjoy the Stella
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arbboy
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August 30, 2015, 12:33:41 AM »
Quote from: engy on August 30, 2015, 12:27:53 AM
6k profit on the dogs on a Saturday night would ease the stress of these lot trying to wind you up arb nice lift bud enjoy the Stella
I don't think anyone was trying to wind me up. I think most are mobot fan boys who believe the bbc hype.
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August 30, 2015, 12:36:42 AM »
Think a couple were, but no way is he anywhere near when you look through all the names mentioned in this thread
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Marky147
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August 30, 2015, 12:53:06 AM »
Quote from: arbboy on August 30, 2015, 12:33:41 AM
Quote from: engy on August 30, 2015, 12:27:53 AM
6k profit on the dogs on a Saturday night would ease the stress of these lot trying to wind you up arb nice lift bud enjoy the Stella
I don't think anyone was trying to wind me up. I think most are mobot fan boys who believe the bbc hype.
I think a fair few were, but could be wrong, of course
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swinebag22
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August 30, 2015, 10:51:05 AM »
I think it is a mistake to judge distance runners by times when judging their greatness.
In the 100m, there are no tactics in terms of opponents, you just execute your race plan, which in John Virgo terms is "run as fast as you can". So to win titles you need to be close to world record pace
In the 5K/10K, it is far more tactical with the early laps being run at snail's pace. It is 1.0000001 that a record time will be set in the final of a championship race.
When records are set in the 5K/10K, they are stage managed events with pacemakers.
Mo seems interested in only winning titles. He is competing in fields that have 3 runners from the same country who may be running to a team race plan designed to upset his race plan. You only have to look at the way Mo finishes races off to see how majestic he is.
His full race times may not be great compared to WR times/attempts but I reckon his last 400/800m would compare very favourably. An empty claim without the data, I know but it's just as empty as using his time in a final to judge his overall greatness
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