Excess bag-gage

[celtic]

been happening in scotchland a while. It's not as bad as you would imagine.

[RED-DOG]

This isn't a problem and anyone who thinks it is should get a grip.

just saying.

The bags or the charge?

[doubleup]

This isn't a problem and anyone who thinks it is should get a grip.

just saying.

The bags or the charge?

the whole thing is completely unimportant

[Woodsey]

5p won't change much, should be 50p at least to make a difference.

[RED-DOG]

This isn't a problem and anyone who thinks it is should get a grip.

just saying.

The bags or the charge?

the whole thing is completely unimportant

Why do you say that, don't you think millions of discarded plastic bags mater?

I think they do. Does that mean I need to get a grip? What does 'Get a grip' mean in this context?

What do you think of studies like this one?

http://phys.org/news/2015-04-discarded-plastic-bags-smothering-marine.html

[RED-DOG]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34414710

[tikay]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34414710

It's not just plastic bags though Tom - so many basics are made from some form of plastic these days, & much of it will never degrade. We cannot live without the stuff.

Can't imagine how much waste plastic will have accumulated 100 or 1,000 years from now.

Thought this was a good wiki page.....


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic

Apparently the first true "plastic" was Bakelite. We grew up with Bakelite light switches,  Bakelite sockets & plugs, all sorts. Don't see it now, but presumably, it's all still here somewhere, in landfill sites or whatever.

Bakelite was usually brown, but next door were posh - they had WHITE Bakelite. Ooohh.

Click to see full-size image.

[RED-DOG]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34414710

It's not just plastic bags though Tom - so many basics are made from some form of plastic these days, & much of it will never degrade. We cannot live without the stuff.

Do you think that's what Dave meant when he made this bald and, imo rather challenging statement?

"This isn't a problem and anyone who thinks it is should get a grip".

[david3103]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34414710

It's not just plastic bags though Tom - so many basics are made from some form of plastic these days, & much of it will never degrade. We cannot live without the stuff.

Do you think that's what Dave meant when he made this bald and, imo rather challenging statement?

"This isn't a problem and anyone who thinks it is should get a grip".

To be fair, I read the post as meaning that reusing plastic bags or carrying a few canvas bags was a small inconvenience for the wider benefit.

Some plastic packaging these days is widely recycled, as is cardboard, glass and cans. More should be. Plastic bags tend to become litter though and end up in landfill, or as pollutants.

6.3 billion of them in 2010 according to this and the 5p will go to good causes apparently. £730 million over 10 years, plus a £60 million saving on litter clearing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34346309

[RED-DOG]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34414710

It's not just plastic bags though Tom - so many basics are made from some form of plastic these days, & much of it will never degrade. We cannot live without the stuff.

Do you think that's what Dave meant when he made this bald and, imo rather challenging statement?

"This isn't a problem and anyone who thinks it is should get a grip".

To be fair, I read the post as meaning that reusing plastic bags or carrying a few canvas bags was a small inconvenience for the wider benefit.

Some plastic packaging these days is widely recycled, as is cardboard, glass and cans. More should be. Plastic bags tend to become litter though and end up in landfill, or as pollutants.

6.3 billion of them in 2010 according to this and the 5p will go to good causes apparently. £730 million over 10 years, plus a £60 million saving on litter clearing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34346309

Perhaps.

I did ask him to clarify what he meant but his answer didn't make it any clearer.

As far as I can make out he thinks the entire thing is a non issue and anyone who thinks differently needs to get a grip.

I hope he explains further though. I've probably got it completely wrong.

[RED-DOG]

Does he know who I am btw?

[tikay]

Does he know who I am btw?

Ronnie Pickering is "One Punch Ronnie" apparently.

You can be "Ten Ton Tom".

[Ironside]

All bags up here are 5p including at maccy d's or kfc etc

[McGlashan]

Does anybody outside of England regularly pay 5p for a bag?

It always bugged me that checkout clerks would offer you a bag even if you're purchasing just one item. My regular thing was a 2l of milk. The carton conveniently had a handle to hold on to so I would politely declined the offer of a free plastic bag. Sometimes on the way home my right hand would get a bit cold cold, but I just switched to my left hand and always managed to get the milk carton home in one piece.

[MPOWER]

From Monday, Supermarkets & large retail chains will be charging 5p per carrier bag, after new legislation comes into force.

5p a bag soon adds up. When I spend £30 in Tescos, I need 3 bags, so that adds 5% to the bill.


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/30/excess-baggage-will-5p-charge-finally-kill-the-plastic-bag

Tikay

I'm sure its 0.5% of the bill.

If you are being charged 5% i'd phone the Daily Mail.

#ithink

Regards

M