Potential Introduction of Deposit Limits

[Chompy]

Trying to find someone with plenty of cash already who fancies opening me a new batch of accounts for £500 is going to be challenging. This football season might just be the end of the road.

[nirvana]

Ok. It's the "As far as possible" bit that lets you down.

It is of course possible to make all forms of gambling totally illegal. (Apart from the kind you enjoy obv) Is that what you are advocating?

If it was a binary choice id choose to prohibit all gambling.

Cant imagine that ever happening so very happy to see regulation that puts more hurdles in peoples way and gradually regulate it out of existence, like smoking.

So what about playing the stock market, raffles, pensioners playing pinochle, whist and euchre for pennies, £1ew once a year on the Grand National... ?

The masses should be allowed a free shot of gin and a £5 weekly flutter

[RED-DOG]

Ok. It's the "As far as possible" bit that lets you down.

It is of course possible to make all forms of gambling totally illegal. (Apart from the kind you enjoy obv) Is that what you are advocating?

If it was a binary choice id choose to prohibit all gambling.

Cant imagine that ever happening so very happy to see regulation that puts more hurdles in peoples way and gradually regulate it out of existence, like smoking.

So what about playing the stock market, raffles, pensioners playing pinochle, whist and euchre for pennies, £1ew once a year on the Grand National... ?

The masses should be allowed a free shot of gin and a £5 weekly flutter

I lolled and the Mrs asked why. (I made something up of course)

[RED-DOG]

BTW Glen, I saw this challenge and thought of you.

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[Karabiner]

I'd certainly be in favour of online casinos being banned.

#My2c

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I'd certainly be in favour of online casinos being banned.

#My2c

But not the National Lottery, Scratch-cards, Bingo etc?

Just debating you understand.


BTW- Is this a conspiracy by people with good hair?

[KarmaDope]

Ban all gambling?

Nirvana clearly trolling here, right?

The whole thing is ridiculous. There are (according to Google) 280,000 problem gamblers in the UK. The population of the UK is (again, according to Google) 67,610,000 or a number around that.

Some very simple maths indicates that is 0.4141% of the UK population. So therefore, an argument can potentially be made that in order to protect 0.4141% of the population, we are removing the option for the remaining 99.5859% of the population to gamble in some sort of form or another should they express the desire to do so.

Obviously, it isn't as simple as that and I agree some games do need winding in - the start of limiting speed of online slots for example appears to have worked, along with banning use of credit cards to deposit. There are other things but I'd be here for hours, one thing that does my head in though is when you play a slot, whether online or in a B&M casino, where a "winning spin" is less than the cost of the spin. Should be a minimum that you get your overall stake back in that spin, not your line stake. That's probably more protective of the player than an asinine deposit limit.

[nirvana]

BTW Glen, I saw this challenge and thought of you.

Click to see full-size image.

Natch, I can't see this (posts passim)

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BTW Glen, I saw this challenge and thought of you.

Click to see full-size image.

Natch, I can't see this (posts passim)

Bugger!

Can't you see it on your phone either?

[nirvana]

Ban all gambling?

Nirvana clearly trolling here, right?

The whole thing is ridiculous. There are (according to Google) 280,000 problem gamblers in the UK. The population of the UK is (again, according to Google) 67,610,000 or a number around that.

Some very simple maths indicates that is 0.4141% of the UK population. So therefore, an argument can potentially be made that in order to protect 0.4141% of the population, we are removing the option for the remaining 99.5859% of the population to gamble in some sort of form or another should they express the desire to do so.

Obviously, it isn't as simple as that and I agree some games do need winding in - the start of limiting speed of online slots for example appears to have worked, along with banning use of credit cards to deposit. There are other things but I'd be here for hours, one thing that does my head in though is when you play a slot, whether online or in a B&M casino, where a "winning spin" is less than the cost of the spin. Should be a minimum that you get your overall stake back in that spin, not your line stake. That's probably more protective of the player than an asinine deposit limit.

We do weirder things and prohibit less damaging pursuits. Like walking in a park with 2 mates you don't live with. Let's say you double that 280k at a minimum for lives damaged by gambling and the problem does get bigger.

You mention that some things should be wound in and that would be my starting point - pretty self evident that certain types of gambling just gouge the punter and a skilled punter or a firm nicking off a an unskilled punter over a longer time frame is in the same continuum. All we're really discussing is where the lines should be drawn. I'm one end, and lots are at the other.

[StuartHopkin]

Surely we need to compare problem gamblers to total UK gamblers rather than the full UK population?

I think there should be a threshold where you have to prove you can afford your losses.

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Surely we need to compare problem gamblers to total UK gamblers rather than the full UK population?

I think there should be a threshold where you have to prove you can afford your losses.

So that would apply to your average Joe and millionaires alike?

[RED-DOG]

I'm aware that I seem very adversarial, some might even say argumentive in many of my posts but don't pay any mind, it's all in fun.

[tikay]

I'm aware that I seem very adversarial, some might even say argumentive in many of my posts but don't pay any mind, it's all in fun.

No worries Tom, I think we all understand it's in your nature to be difficult. It's Mrs Red we feel sorry for.

[RED-DOG]

I'm aware that I seem very adversarial, some might even say argumentive in many of my posts but don't pay any mind, it's all in fun.

No worries Tom, I think we all understand it's in your nature to be difficult. It's Mrs Red we feel sorry for.

It's just so difficult when everyone is wrong all the time.