Donate the £5 to the guys doing the Movember.

Or buy Tittwatbean a decent meal

What's a troll got to do to get a ban round here?

I bet you were the type of guy to run to the teacher every time the other kids called you a reject

whether that's true or not, at least he was never the kid who called other kids 'rejects' as I imagine you were.

Not at all. I was very different to other kids at school, I'd prefer to embrace being different then complaining about it. Merely highlighting there are going to be a lot if things you feel unfair in life, or want changing. However you are better off dealing with them by getting on with it, rather then whining, as most poker players prefer to do.

Donate the £5 to the guys doing the Movember.

Or buy Tittwatbean a decent meal

What's a troll got to do to get a ban round here?

I bet you were the type of guy to run to the teacher every time the other kids called you a reject

Well done. Looking forward to your next staking request at 1.7 now 

Donate the £5 to the guys doing the Movember.

Or buy Tittwatbean a decent meal

[Hand 1]

Hand 1

Turn check is definitely fine and I think I even go ahead and check the flop tbh. I think the river jam is far to big, and will be folding hands that he would be calling ~$20 with.

Hand 2

I'm nearly always checking here with the plan to call and revaluate on turn, occasionally will be c/r but not so often.

What are you going to re-evaluate on the turn? Whether you hit your flush or not?

Morroco

Eygpt

loving all the football analogies itt.

Its more like a random guy luckboxed a chess freeroll to play for 3m dollars but hes gauranteed 1m.

He can be happy with his 1m, but if he didnt plan some openings or how to defend it would be silly right? Its exactly the same here.

Im sure if it was the biggest chess match in the world each year and super high profile the chess pundits would be amazed too.

He was also a professional poker player (7th time posted itt now)

Silly? Potenitally

Yours and everyone elses business to ridicule them on live coverage, twitter, forums etc where their friends, family, other recreational players that like to play the big tournaments and anyone else thinking about trying to get into the game to read? Absolutely not

Some of the posts in this thread and on 2p2 by supposed 'heros' and big winners actually disgust me.

You've got a guy who has paid $10k, and got to where he is probably largely by luck.

He doesn't deserve to be torn apart by every pro and spotty 22 year old who crush the game.

If Havant and Waterlooville had made it past the 6th round a few years back against Liverpool and ended up playing Man Utd in the quarters, would you expect every top pundit and top player to be tweeting and commentating on how shit they were playing? 'OMG, how did he miss that from 20 yards out, ROFL how did he not manage to hit that man from 40 yards away'.

You need to grow up, have some respect and let recreational players play however the fuck they want. It doesn't matter one bit how much effort and preparation you perceive them to have or have not put in. What if they were just happy with the $1mill they made and saw anything else as a bonus?

I understand the freemarket concept. However, do you not think that as a community you should be offering value? Rather then sucking it for as much as you can as often as you can?

**by 'you' I dont mean specifically yourself

As for posting anonymously and moaning about mark-ups, good job. I have a sharkscope graph that has a nice trend in the upwards direction, I'm trust worthy and I've had my fair share of binks and deep runs. I also work hard and take part in community discussion.

Why not be honest and say it's not the sharkscope, trustworthyness, work ethic etc you take into account when setting markups. You are just greedy and want to charge as high as you can while still selling out. Which you infer in your staking thread...

At no point in any of my first posts did I say Dan was not worth the markeup. I deduced that from the markup he sold at and the speed at he sold that he is obviously a better player then me. Therefore I wanted to know if this hand was played well, or badly (I am aware that you can sell at 1.3 and play hands badly).

I was then told to go and check OPR because that is why Dan is worth 1.3. So I did go and check OPR, and from what I could see by looking at games played, abi and profit, it seemed he wasn't. Then because I have insinuated that maybe Dan isn't worth 1.3 due to the results he told me to check, he takes it personally, as do all his friends.

Jono3131 the reason people are annoyed with your post is that posting a hand history of someone elses as if it's your own violates the trust people take for granted in a forum.

I come to this page to share in a poker discussion with like minded people. Occasionally just to help out other poker enthusiasts. I don't do it to inadvertantly partake in attacks on the skill level of other players. When someone posts a hand I assume they genuinely want to seek advice and improve not to highlight another member of the forums weaknesses.

Also using one hand to generate a discussion of what mark-up someone should justifiably be charging is foolish. Even if you watched someone as outstanding as Moorman or Brammer play an entire Sunday they will do at least a couple of plays that are horrendous. It's the nature of long hours multi-tabling.

Originally I posted the hand history as if it was my own as I didn't want people to know it was Dan, I just wanted people to give feedback on the hand so posted it as if it was my own. I don't believe I've done anything wrong in posting the hand, Dan did it originally, it's not like I just saw the hand and took it upon myself to make a thread about it. I am unable to post in the staking section so figured this was the right place to do it.

All I was looking for is someone to say 'yes it's played well because xyz' or 'no i don't think it's played well because xyz'.

I then got annoyed because if anything, I think I was getting trolled at the start by everyone, aside from Royal flush. then once everyone realised it was Dan everyone just started saying how out of order I was, instead of commentating on the hand itself (which is why I posted it as my own).

And then in the 3/4th page Dan says 'yes I played it badly' or something similar. As previously mentioned, if he had said this to the first person that questioned the hand I wouldn't of even battered an eyelid. By him implying it was something super standard I wanted to find out why.

Cheers,

Ill keep it with me at all times.

The difficulty with explaining things to a troll is just that.  You would have got more of a response from all if you had posted the hand and asked DC his thought process etc, instead of getting the HH and pretending your the Hero to get some replies before using that as a weapon to take a shot at Dan.  Thats just low.

Acting like a douche will get result in people not liking you much, whether you flame their friends or not.

Also posting comments about "making less than working at Subway!" and overcharging people etc when this is his job is deffo below the belt.  If i came into your workplace (i assume you have one) and attempted to pick your day apart, im pretty sure you'd be p*ssed.

Someone tried that. The response was 'I beat a million hands'.

If you are assuming villain peels 3bet with 100% of hands, peels flop with 100% of hands, jams turn with 100% of hands, then it would be call. However he isn't.

Don't get the stuff about being mentally all in pre flop. Ok you want to be, but instead you get to the flop with 25bb. You don't have to butcher the rest of it

Everyone* butchers the odd hand every now and then.  Far rather see him post it rather than just give us KK < AA.   Whether he is worth 1.3 or not is a whole different argument.  People aren't taking his side because we are his mates, it is because you have gone about the discussion entirely the wrong way. 

* except Pleno obv.

If he had posted 'yeh I know I just butchered it' I wouldn't of paid a blind bit of notice. I know more then most people butch hands. It was just the response, it seemed to me to be pretty arrogant. And if it wasn't being arrogant, parts of the game like this I am not understanding and would like to know.

Cheers,

Ill keep it with me at all times.

The difficulty with explaining things to a troll is just that.  You would have got more of a response from all if you had posted the hand and asked DC his thought process etc, instead of getting the HH and pretending your the Hero to get some replies before using that as a weapon to take a shot at Dan.  Thats just low.

Acting like a douche will get result in people not liking you much, whether you flame their friends or not.

Also posting comments about "making less than working at Subway!" and overcharging people etc when this is his job is deffo below the belt.  If i came into your workplace (i assume you have one) and attempted to pick your day apart, im pretty sure you'd be p*ssed.

Someone tried that. The response was 'I beat a million hands'.

If you are assuming villain peels 3bet with 100% of hands, peels flop with 100% of hands, jams turn with 100% of hands, then it would be call. However he isn't.

Don't get the stuff about being mentally all in pre flop. Ok you want to be, but instead you get to the flop with 25bb. You don't have to butcher the rest of it