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Dermot Jacob -- 42,800

Is this guy like the "nike" angel?
Or do you need to take some more photography lessons snoop? To augment what you learnt in Amsterdam

Good news. Northern monkeys liverpool getting spanked by Arsenal. Northern monkeys. 

 

Just before i go to bed wanted to say a couple of things regarding the Red hand.
It is just me or does anyone else have SERIOUS problems playing a big pocket pair post-flop. This is why i think its vitally important Red finds out where he is there and then. They are so hard to play in fact that in cash games on tinternet now i think all pocket pairs are worth about the same when the money is deep . Same thing in a well structured tournament. Give me pocket sixes and i wont get into trouble. No set no bet yadayada. Queens in Reds situation is genuinely difficult.

If you flat call and the board comes 9/10/J high id hazard a guess that 90% of blondes (myself included) would have real trouble laying it down unless you know your player well. We exit the tournament here. Red has immense knowledge and experience but its tricky. Do you trust yourself enough to fold QQ postflop when  the board comes raggy and your opponent is serious?

Any 1 on here married Queens postflop in a cash game and got stacked? Thought so.


I think in hindsight that a re-raise of 3k will get the same result if he has AA/KK.  But if mateyboys already shown down Q3 to a raise, im shoving and im out.

Coincidentally i exited the 15k Tribeca final table tonight with just that, an overpair on a connected board where you have to bet to protect against drawing hands getting the right price. Advice please. Bah, id rather have 76 any day.

I think you may have overplayed them but in this case you may have saved youself chips in the specific hand as a result.

It's not something you can say definitively becasue there are a lot of factors including was the BB playing loose generally, or only with position? Was he generally reraising from the BB? It's hard to be defiitve based on the info given but I personally don't generally like the rereraise with QQ. But what do I know. What I would say if yis if your table imade is as tight as Alex says then unles the guy is a real bad player he's going to find it diffcult to make a mistake in this hand after you've rerasied him. I hate letting them off the hook like that.

Iv been working up your tight image red-dog. Should come in handy one day.

Hard to tell red. Was the guy ultra tight, if so, maybe.
I think you played it right, you want to know if your losing preflop and a raise of any less doesnt send the right message.

Snoops and Jen wont mind, and if anyone else does......tough.

I guess when a player as tight as Red-Dog makes the third raise, you have to have him on AA/KK/QQ. Against more unpredictable opponents i think winning the pot now is fine. Against a (relatively) readable player like reddog (not an insult, just eveyone knows he plays solid poker), you can check raise him all-in on any flop without a K or Q and by then hes pot commited.

The more i think about it, when you get given the third raise treatment with aces, you should flat call.

Nice work ol
I feel clever

 

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

I agree in one sense Alex as he's adding a decent chunk risk free but on the other hand it's a long long way from the money so maybe optimal big tournie poker would be better and try to maximise the EV. I'm torn on this one on the one hand you can only lose a tournie early and notwin it but on the other hand you need to get chips at some stage.

It depends on if he three bets with non AA holdings too I guess to some extent. An interesting hand...

Yes its an intersting concept. Personally i like to play a lot of small/medium sized pots and slowly build a stack rather than risk my tournament on 1 hand. But there are phenomenal arguments you could make for getting chips early.

RED-DOG has dropped to 9,200 after a preflop raise-off between him (the cutoff, ) and the loose, but chip-leading big blind.  Tom made it 600 to go, the big blind made it 1,800, Tom re-raised by a further 4k, and then when the big blind moved in, he passed, to the Aces.  Ah well, back to the starting chips.

Do people think the BB should flat-call the 3-bet and let Red hang himself on the flop? The all-in seems a little pointless I think.

I think there is a lot to be said for taking the pot down now. No risk and a pretty big pot.

11.55, RyanAir from somwhere in London. My spider senses inform me that it is either Luton, Heathrow or er... that other one.

2?

Dunno, depends if i think frenchie is hurting from his losses.
If he's that loose, i think maybe you can find a better spot v one of the tighter players.
2 Solid players in the blinds, auto-push.

You serious? Auto-call.

And i dont care that he's a piece of granite.

What does he have here to warrent that raise?  I would have thought any 2 or 4 in the hand would have resulted in a fold preflop.   Pocket 2's or 4's is a possibility I suppose, although I wouldn't call a raise with either preflop.  AA, KK would raise preflop.  Another overpair?   Isn't a reraise of that amount a bit strong?  Was the continuation bet too small?  It was a half pot bet, is reraising the pot with an overpair here a possibility or a stupid move incase I'd hit or didn't need to hit?  The raise preflop from utg was a strong move wasn't it?

you have a point with some of this. it's unlikely he has 22 or 44. if he's called for value with A3/A5 of hearts then it's a good raise. as he knows he's likely to be flat called by an overpair and possibly just checked on the turn. i think the main likelyhood has to be something like 55-1010. if i had 55 or 1010 here i'd figure you'd missed with AK-AJ probably. the only way to find out if the pocket pair was still ahead would be to raise as they did.

given this. if you felt like pushing it home hard you could have flat called. and if the turn was a JQKA bet the pot and pushed them off what would no longer be an overpair. it depends how defensive their raise seems given their previous play however.

edit: just thought i'd point out you're playing with only 30 BB here. that's...well...pretty suicidal in the long run. but i should hope you already knew that.

Thank fuck there arent more players like you Tempor. Quality response. This effectively sums up all you need to know Silo and is imo pretty close to optimal strategy for AK continuation bettors when you know your opponent.
 

To be quite frank, this is a farce. Ariston, you obv have great analytical skills and i took the time to read your articles but your argument on here are poor. 

I could get lucky/outplay everyone and win 10 out of 10 major MTT's. Then I could criticise someone else's play. When they say why i could say, "well, i won, so it works- i must be right".

People thought the earth was flat once.

 WE WANT EXPLANATIONS NOT TRUMPET BLOWING
 I for one want to qualify for a major soon and advice from those that have been there and done it would be much appreciated. This is said in the good spirit of open debate.

Christ Lekcher, thats serious wedge.