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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 02:02:48 PM »

We have 24bb. Villian has 18bb

what difference?

Im more likely to get it in with 18bb than 24bb
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 02:04:41 PM »

effective is still 18bb though.

I think you can 3b/fold in the right spot, but this (probably) isn't it as she probably doesn't have a large enough peel range and just goes with her entire range.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 05:02:29 PM »

Jam.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 11:27:31 PM »

all in
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2013, 04:51:20 AM »

Think you can find good reasons for everything except 3b/f where you will likely have too much equity vs the villains range after 3 betting to make it ok to fold.

Having short stacks behind has to be a good reason to peel with a hand as good as AQ too, when you jam they don't fold anything better (small pps aside) but when you flat they will (especially on French sites) find ways to put it in with worse.

I think my preference is peel > fold >3b/call > jam > 3b/fold hard for anything to be terrible here imo though
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2013, 06:45:45 PM »

I feel they are just getting it in far to often if we 3b any size here. Prefer just mucking.
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2013, 06:51:18 PM »

thoughts on peeling everyone?

maybe I put too many of these spots down to shove/fold.

agree 3b/folding is worst option, so much equity vs his 99-JJ range to do that.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2013, 10:10:39 PM »

only issue with peeling is the squeeze from short stack. gives opener easy over shove right? Unless you plan to call over shove?
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2013, 10:14:15 PM »

only issue with peeling is the squeeze from short stack. gives opener easy over shove right? Unless you plan to call over shove?

Yes call, you give people a chance to get it in wider this way.
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2013, 10:57:57 PM »

only issue with peeling is the squeeze from short stack. gives opener easy over shove right? Unless you plan to call over shove?

Yes call, you give people a chance to get it in wider this way.

Hmm I personably would be shitting it with TT behind if I saw raise 18bb stack flat 23bb stack.
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2013, 11:10:01 PM »

Deffo prefer just flatting here.  Dont know enough about the villian to get fancy and she's showing awful stats to do much against.

ps - she is pretty fit too

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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2013, 11:29:36 PM »

only issue with peeling is the squeeze from short stack. gives opener easy over shove right? Unless you plan to call over shove?

Yes call, you give people a chance to get it in wider this way.

Hmm I personably would be shitting it with TT behind if I saw raise 18bb stack flat 23bb stack.

Yes, but you are not the average frenchman, who sees TJ and all this 'dead money' and can't help but sharpen his bayonet, don his uniform and start crying 'vive la revolution,' 'allez les balncs,' all the time cursing the odds and berating the foolish ros-bifs for not following their gut when they get that feeling.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2013, 11:50:02 PM »

pics of opponent? could be vital
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2013, 12:01:45 AM »

This thread is bs.

Some of you are talking about the hand like its a short stacked cash game. It's a tourney ain't it? No one has mentioned how many are left in? How many paid? Ave stack? Itm? Big prize?

I would never flat but would shove/fold depending on above info.

Aah sod it. If I was actually playing online I would be pissed so ..... Aaaaaw Innnnnnnnn!



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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2013, 12:12:08 AM »

This thread is bs.

Some of you are talking about the hand like its a short stacked cash game. It's a tourney ain't it? No one has mentioned how many are left in? How many paid? Ave stack? Itm? Big prize?

I would never flat but would shove/fold depending on above info.

Aah sod it. If I was actually playing online I would be pissed so ..... Aaaaaw Innnnnnnnn!





'Early on day two of 50euro french comp. Itm. Villain is a Winamax Pro, but no reads. Have him at 10/10/6 over 250 hands. He has 18bbs, we have like 24.' - from OP.


Ok so I'm a fish and haven't worked out how to multiple quote yet.

It's the Winamax main event, a super soft comp, just itm, let's say around 150 or so left with 25k euros for the winner. I'm guessing the average stack is around 30bb.
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